Morning Walks to Dog Talks - A Mix of Life, Tech, and Tomatoes

0:00 it's a good time to ask if we're doing an intro is when it's time to do the intro I think probably time to do the intro Hey everybody No, no cut Hey everybody, welcome to the Space Tomatoes podcast This is LX here Hi, over here is My number one guy, Havoc Hello Havoc Over there Yeah, he could be somewhere over there I don't know how you're going to cut it up He's somewhere, he's next to me On one side or the other Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:56 So how's your morning going? Good. We went to our morning walk, did our couple miles. Then we start hearing, like, stuff over the intercom. And we're like, what is that? What's an intercom? You know, like a big PA system. You have a PA system? No, we were on our walk, and we're like, what is that noise? Like, somebody's talking over a PA system. We're like, what's going on? Then we hear the national anthem being played or sung. apparently they were having let me see these uh people set up on these corners the street corners apparently they're having a little 5k uh run through the area where we usually go from the the ymca is not too far so they were like man we better get finished before we get mowed over here i guess right yeah so we we got done barely in time some charity thing or something the ymca i don't know they're just doing a five five cave run that's pretty cool we saw like the water people out there i'm like what's going on i'm like ymca is doing a 5k run like oh okay the water people yeah like they had a table with water on it i mean 5k is really not that far is it that like three three miles or something yeah it's it's not that far i've done a number of five and ten like chair both both working at like a uh you know stand as well as i walk them i'm not i'm not i'm not built for running running and i just no i'm not really like i was working out pretty

2:32 heavily when i was younger and uh i felt i kind of plateaued with my with my cardio and so i you know i'm a i'll start i'll try running see how that goes and so i did and uh you know ended up causing me a bunch of joint pain and stuff i actually went to the doctor because i had gone scuba diving and thought you know i i came up from a dive i i was in safe limits everything was okay and i've been you know i've been diving now for like 40 years oh wow 40 oh wow yeah 42 years but uh, you know, I was in safe limits as to everything else, but I started getting joint aches and some weird, you know, pains that just were anomalous. And I was like, I better go get checked out. See, you know, if, uh, you know, potentially I've got, you know, a very slight case of the bends or something, you know? So I went and checked it out and, you know, they checked me out and he's like, you know, you look like you work out to change your routine. At first I was like no blah blah and he came back and he's like yeah you know tests are negative you're you're okay uh is there you sure there's nothing i go you know what i started running and he looks at me he goes have you ever seen runners and i'm like yeah and he goes what do they look like i don't know you know kind of tall skinny people i guess he goes yeah are you tall i'm like no he's like are you skinny no maybe that's not the sport for you biking or something so he's trying to tell you in

4:09 a kind way well i'm i'm kind of a a stocky built person i am not a lanky kind of person you know and if you look at runners there's quite typically not the stocky people that are out there running Right. You know what I mean? So, and in running is, you know, in my opinion, is not good for your body. I just don't think it is. I don't think it's bad for your body to, to do that as, you know, part of a routine, et cetera. But running in general is worse for your body than, than, you know, I mean, you can get on a bicycle, right? You can walk, right? You won't get the cardio from walking, but you also won't stress your heart.

4:54 You won't, you know, mess with your joints. You know, joints is a big one, right? And so, yeah. And biking, you can get all the cardio you want. And again, you're not putting that kind of massive stress on the joints just as you run, you know. I'll tell you what, though. You impressed the crap out of me with your fireman's carry of our friend there. Fireman's carry of a fireman? Yeah. Well, I wasn't going to mention anybody. I didn't say who it was. I just said it was a fireman. Yeah. So one of our friends had a little incident that was a fire person.

5:35 They were incapacitated for a short amount of time, and they couldn't walk. And so Mr. Havoc over here just picked this person right up, threw them over his shoulder, carried them back to the house. It was quite the spectacle. I was very impressed, let me tell you. Me too. I wish I would have taken like a picture or something. Maybe a video. Yeah. There are pictures. Oh, there is? All right. Yeah, there's a couple of them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I keep it in my mind since I don't carry any kind of device like that to take pictures.

6:15 Yeah. Yeah. See, there's the problem. We got to get you like a little non-phone. Like a camera, you mean? No, I'm good. Like a tablet, but phone size. So you can carry it with you and take videos and pictures and do stuff like that. But no phone. No phone. Zero phone. No internet. No, nothing. It'll just like Bluetooth to your, to your tablet, your big. You know, talking about tablets. I, I, I was, I always said that like when my current iPad is dead, that like I'm done. I'm my wife doesn't want to take that for an answer. And like people around me don't really want to take that for an answer because it does essentially cut me off from everything.

6:58 I mean, you can still write letters and stuff like that, but. If we can do the podcast with, with letters. Yeah. I mean, I'll log on once a week to do this. I can do it. My dearest Alex. I like letters. Maybe I should get a PO box, right? We had a PO box for some reason at some point. I don't remember why. But anyway. Oh, yeah. Anyway, looking at tablets, it really kind of irritates me because none of the new ones, at least the ones from Apple, you cannot get them with wired headphone jack. And I prefer wired headphones, like, just because I like them better. none of them have a headphone jack none of the phones have a headphone jack i don't know if it's other manufacturers too or just apple but it's kind of irritating i think there's there's still some you know uh not mainstream brands that do have the the little it was a you know rca mini jacks or whatever like three and a half mil jack for you know standard jack yeah but but uh they do make a little usb dongle yeah usb don't stick that they got more crap hanging off the end they break off when you hold it or whatever that's why we buy this stuff so that it can break yeah i did notice my tablet is getting uh slower i'm sure that's planned obsolescence and all that nonsense.

8:30 how old is your tablet? I don't know. I'm probably five years old. Really? Yeah, probably. Maybe six. I don't know. I really don't know. What's that? You got it right before you left the game? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. I actually I carried both of them around for a while. Like I had two iPads because I didn't know how to switch the email over on one to the other one because I forgot the password. And like, since I set it up on my phone, they want to send me like a confirmation text to my phone since I don't have a phone anymore.

9:11 Like that makes it, you know, virtually impossible. So then to reset your Microsoft email or whatever, you got to wait 30 days or something like that. Or I don't remember how I did it, but eventually I got it done. and I could ditch the old one. The old one was actually much nicer. It was the Pro model that had the dual speakers on it, and I liked it a lot better, but I went with the standard one this time, which it still works okay. Yeah, I think it's kind of silly, right? The models they throw out there, they're like, ooh, this one has better speakers. Well, let's talk about the Pro.

9:52 A lot of things put Pro after the end, You can buy a pickup truck Pro or an SUV Pro or an iPad Pro or even a phone Pro. Isn't the whole Pro thing like you're using it to make money with? I mean, the definition of professional, right? It just seems silly. It is. It's really silly because you look at it and you're like, well, it's not professional. There's nothing professional. Right. Yeah. yeah it's it's a silly thing it is it's it's all advert marketing like what what tweaks the human psyche enough to make this one and pay more for this one and and they found out that anything that's pro pro professional grade you know anything like that people are like oh this is good stuff we gotta you got me thinking with that last episode man maybe i just maybe i should get into selling that women's clothing for three times the cost.

10:52 And that sounds like a good deal. It's, it's an insane thing. It is. You literally think about this ladies. If you're out there, think about this. Honestly, go, go, go just look at a few things. Look at some t-shirts on your rack and then go over to the men's shirts and look at the t-shirts. Do you notice less fabric? Is it not as nice? is the print not as good no it's it's all the same in fact you might even be able to find the same basic brand of shirt and you'll notice that your stuff is way more expensive i mean they do cut them a little different right well sure there's less fabric and it is tapered you'll you'll have a bit of a different cut and feel to it but again that doesn't when I was doing it, I don't want to give away the name of the company, but let's just put it this way.

11:53 At $20, I was making roughly $18 per shirt. That's crazy, right? Yes. Yeah. It's the same thing with these sneakers. What are they, like $150 a pair for name brand sneakers? They're probably paying less than $10. Yeah. Insane to me. It is. But keep in mind that the cost of it was fairly low, but that's also considering bulk. That's not like running a single shop. You're also going to deal with customer end things like fraud and returns and probably others.

12:40 shrinkage things. Yeah. I'd scam returns, et cetera. I didn't have much of an issue with, with inventory loss or anything like that. You know what I mean? Uh but yeah the you know shipping stuff and people and I didn even understand this at first I like what is going on here But people were like you know purchasing these things uh and then having them shipped to like vacant lots really really turned out they were using stolen credit cards and shipping them to a vacant lot near town and when the driver shows up they're like oh yeah that's for me so that now when the uh person that actually owns those cards reports them stolen who who has to eat that you as the merchant no well i mean i ate the loss of inventory oh okay yeah i ate the loss of inventory it was kind of like well my inventory's gone you know what are you gonna do they're like we're not gonna pay keep paying that was you know not money that was meant to go right you know so you know in that case, it wasn't that big of a deal for me. You know, I, I didn't, I never, you know, had like, we, I, I made some mistakes in that business that I should have, I should have done a lot more research into that whole industry because I made some big mistakes. So I never really sold a volume enough to where that would become problematic, you know? So were you drop shipping from somewhere

14:13 else or did you actually buy the inventory and was like storing it in your garage and and all that stuff that's probably where the fun comes in right yeah if you don't have a hundred thousand foot warehouse it probably takes up a lot of room and even where you're living it really doesn't if you think about it a a box uh i want to say it's probably a 24 inch box something like that maybe it's a bigger one 36 inches maybe it's 20 i think i want to say 24 but you know a sizable box and there'd be a thousand shirts oh wow yeah so it it's not it's not as bad as you might think as far as storage right and clothing isn't is pretty compact uh if if it's all the same and it's all folded the same way and and stacked the same way then you can stack a lot of clothing in a single area maybe it wasn't a thousand shirts but it was it was you know at least 500 i have to say because i i you know i remember picking up one time a run i think of of 6 000 shirts and uh i you know i was able to fit that into my land rover at the time so it wasn't wasn't a lot you have your own website where you put these or did you uh how'd you market them yeah i had my website i'd gotten some traction with some some uh retailers as well okay and this is where mistakes

15:43 started coming in uh the traction with the retailers is is where you want to be right but you also have to have a massively consistent consistent uh output right like i mean very very consistent uh you know most of the time people will farm these jobs out because they can afford to front the cost of the clothing and the printing for such a large run. And so that brings in this thing called factoring, right? And it gets different than what I thought it was.

16:23 And I wasn't prepared for that. I wasn't ready for it, and I had no idea about it. So if you decide to go start a business, learn about that industry before you go do it. Otherwise, you'll probably throw a lot of money away and then go. Nice. No, I mean, I so I used to sell a lot of stuff on eBay. This is like 15 years ago and it was actually kind of decent. I didn't mind it. And then like slowly, like the whole mindset went to went towards. I don't want to say protecting the buyer. They've always had buyer protections in place, but more favoring the buyer for everything and saying, like, just screw you to the seller.

17:07 You know, you'd have people send it back. They'd buy something and send back, like, something that wasn't even there. You know, swapping out their bad one for, you know, or their good one for a bad one and sending garbage back or complaining about nonsense. and eBay would just refund them immediately with no consideration. They pulled some of my listings for ridiculous reasons. Yeah, I never really got that into doing that. I had a friend that did that. Like had his own little camera station set up with an overhead camera and lights and would take beautiful photos of the stuff and all that stuff.

17:49 And I guess he was doing okay with it, right? It was just kind of a side hustle. Yeah, it was just something to do in my spare time. Yeah. I mean, some people do it full time, I guess. Yeah. I did sell a few things through eBay, I think, way back in the day. And it didn't seem that bad. But yeah, I've heard stories. And I mean, it's, you know, back in the day, you could go on like, you know, whatever marketplace. and you know list something and get it sold and you just do a transaction it was all pretty good right i you know i've heard your stories now and i've dealt with people on other apps and it's like dude no man you know i don't i don't have time for this you know people oh yeah i want it okay and then they show up and they're like well you know will you take a you know 50 it's listed for 100 it's like you know no i put 100 on there and like well i only got 50 and okay well then why did you come here you know what was the point here i told you i wanted 100 you agreed to 100 we agreed on time and a date and you show up and you're like oh life of god is 50 it's like go fuck yourself that happened to me one time yeah yeah i just it's that kind of stuff and it's like whatever you know i prefer to list stuff that's free and just people are grateful when they come and they grab it and it's like okay good you know because i just don't want to deal with the hassle of that kind of bullshit or worse you set up a time and a date and then no show and then they call you

19:24 two hours later and they're like hey i'm running a little bit late can i still come it's like no you know it's you know if you would have called me beforehand sure but two hours late you didn't even have the courtesy to just let me know hey you know there's a general uh i don't know lack of respect i think amongst that crowd that frequents those things i mean i i don't know i've had i've had good interactions with people too those people the buying and selling on the Online people. Yeah, those people. Them. The buyers.

20:05 And then, I don't know if they've ever changed. Did they ever go through with the IRS thing that they want to send you like a 1099 at the end of the year for anything over like 600 bucks transfer? I think they kind of walked that back several times. Oh, no. I think it went into place. I don't know. I don't remember, to be honest with you. It's ridiculous. It was $600 reporting. Are you freaking crazy? Come on. Right. No. Like if you sell your couch on the marketplace or whatever, they want you to, or you sell a $600 camera. It's like having a yard sale. I mean, I guess legally, you have to report your yard sale as income.

20:49 I'm not a person to ask about that shit because I just, I don't know. I'm moving my camera a little bit. I felt a little off center there. Now I'm more balanced. Yeah, I don't know. There's some silliness in there. I remember once I read a thing. Apparently, there's a thing in there somewhere that says if you steal something, you have to report it as income. I did see an article on that. If you're a drug dealer, they won't come after you unless you don't report your income on your taxes. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. It's so bad. It's just, it's the stupidest and most ridiculous thing.

21:30 Literally find something that is not directly or indirectly taxed. Here's a challenge to all of you. Find one thing that you can do that isn't directly or indirectly taxed. In other words, you can't drive to go do it. That's all taxed stuff. Your car, the roads, something you can do. Besides your own bodily function. Breathing doesn't count. It isn't directly or indirectly taxed. Yeah, no, it's ridiculous. And it even goes to bodily functions, I guess. I mean, if you really think about it, you pay taxes on sewer and water and stuff like that.

22:15 So if you use a toilet, you're being taxed. You and I were having a little discussion about the property tax. It's weird. Every state is different too. So like in our state, we just help my wife's parents get another $50,000 exemption on their place, which they don't tell you about these things at all. You have to find out about your – and then you got to fill out the paperwork and go down there and do a mountain. Like when they went down there, it was super easy to do, but they won't tell you that when you're paying your taxes. Like, oh, hey, you're over 65 and you qualify for this. you would think they would but no they don't that's the other thing even the amount like the fifty thousand dollars so like that might have been something 25 years ago when you know houses were a hundred thousand dollars but fifty thousand bucks doesn't really take much off of there anymore no it really doesn't especially when they they revaluate you know revalue uh properties right they come through uh revaluation stuff with taxes and they're like oh your property's now worth a hundred thousand dollars more right they just want to text you on your unrealized gains how is that fair it's not really fair it's it's ridiculous why is it more like the whole deck thing right when we

23:46 were putting on a deck it's like it literally like i'm already paying property tax and if i personally build on my own property a new covered area attached to my house it increases my tax burden why why why why what what what who came up with this ponzi scheme honestly what the what is this and it's all wrapped like you said there's there's so much hidden in there nobody knows what the hell seriously nobody nobody actually has a real solid clue like like do you actually owe anything is there you know some thing that says i don't know you know i have no idea and i'm certainly not a lawyer don't take any advice from me man I mean, I could talk to you about how to cook some meat and do some stuff like that, but I'm not a guy like this.

24:46 But it just seems to me that it's all wrapped in, and it is, it's wrapped in legalese. I think you're right. It's so ridiculously enormous, the codes, the regulations, all of this stuff. You couldn't possibly, literally even judges, right? they they are narrow interest for the most part right uh you'll have a criminal court you'll have family court you'll have you know corporate law you'll have traffic law lawyers same thing with lawyers right because nobody could literally know the law nobody it's impossible well we take that back there's probably like someone with you know a you know form of you know asperger's or autism of some form that could, you know, absorb all this information.

25:42 There's probably people out there that could, but they're going to be like the, you know, one in 10 billion or something. Right. So, you know, and then you take that and you go, okay, well, it's, it's this voluminous amount of crap. So nobody can actually know it but let get even worse Right It twisted and tangled and interconnected And then each section and this is all stuff I learned I trying to educate myself on some of this so that I have some kind of a clue because I literally don't. You'll have each section will have definitions that they can put out. Like this word actually means this. You could say shoe actually means like a box, a red box. Okay. Well, that's not what a shoe is. Everyone knows what a shoe is. Oh no. In the definitions, it's actually a red box. Okay. And then it's not quite that bad.

26:39 It is that bad, but you know, it's, and it's sneaky as crap, right? Because things that you know the definition for are not the definition. And then if those definitions aren't put in there, then it's assumed that you go to a legal dictionary where it wants a fucking in the, I know that word. And you're telling me it means something different than what I know. Okay. So you've literally written your own fucking language and then made it so fucking voluminous that nobody can actually know it all. And then you're like, okay, go do it and make it right.

27:20 Well, how do I do that? We'll pay someone. Well, how do I know they know that it's right? You don't. You just trust them because they got our certificate, which we told you it was right. And it comes back to the same thing. It's like, yeah, that 50K, that should just be your exemption, right? I mean, given certain circumstances, that should just be like auto-applied. Hey, we've noticed, blah, blah, blah, click, done. It's a done deal. But you've got to figure out that that actually exists. And then from figuring out it exists, you've got to figure out what forms, what do I have to do? Do I have to go to an office? Do I have to, you know, notarize? Do I have to certify? Do I have to blah, blah, blah? But nobody's going to tell you that. And what else is out there?

28:01 Do you know? You don't. You have no idea. And nobody's going to tell you. Right. Nobody. Right. Yeah. So it's one of those, it's just, you know, Jones Plantation, right? It's just, we get wrapped up in this whole, I don't want to go into this right now. I'm having a chill morning and I'm going to have a wonderful day. It's a fucked up situation is what it is. It's really bad. It really is. And the more you look into it, the more you just go, what the, what is going on here? You know? I think a lot of stuff in government is like that.

28:43 I know you're a fan though. So, I mean, I don't want to disparage you. No, the people you're a fan of. Government is that. Government is that. They are the creators of that. They are the... It's funny though, because like, so I was just perusing the property appraiser site, which it's all public information here. I don't know if it's like that everywhere, but so I just, not that I'm really nosy, but yeah, I'm a little nosy. so like putting in the names of like you know people that used to be like on the board of county commissioners and whatnot and then you realize like they have 163 000 exemption on their house and they pay zero taxes how does that work it's like you know about who you know and what what boxes you check and and everything else it's but you have to go find that you have to figure it out. It's on you to do it. And it, you know, in reality, it's, it's not free because you're either going to spend years of your time. And I mean, years trying to figure this stuff out and find what is there, or you have to go pay someone that their job is to know all of that stuff.

30:12 And the more they know that stuff, the more they charge. Yeah, that's true. And so it's, it's just this, it's really, it's really bad. You know, it's all of the whole, the whole thing, right. Is all like that. It's all, you know, like this, you know, the omnibus bills or any bill that comes across in Congress, the same dang thing. look the way all this stuff should really work is there should never be more than one thing in one bill period period fucking full stop full stop right why do they have to be you know four or five hundred pages or a thousand pages of stuff like it thousands of pages right it's because everyone has to have their little piece of the pie and they all negotiate right people think oh they don't negotiate. They do negotiate.

31:05 That's how we end up getting like $5 trillion fucking spending packages. Because everybody and their mother gets to negotiate in their little fucking pet project. And we all get fucked. Fucked badly in the ass with a barrel cactus. So what do you think about puppies? Do you like puppies? I love puppies. Puppies are awesome they are there's they're so awesome they really are but we have you gotten dates no no no dates yet is this is this gonna really happen i hope so i mean i'm kind of like letting it ride on the uh you know if it if it's gonna happen and you know things will happen the way they're supposed to be are you just hoping that during a very specific time frame that a puppy will magically that's not that's not going to happen like even even if it it was uh even if they had a breeding like tomorrow the timetable wouldn't match up so either we'll take another trip in that direction at some point or yeah or i'm not i'm not pushing it because you know like i really do think things happen for a reason when they you know they're supposed to and every time I've tried to force something, it usually doesn't work out very well.

32:33 Every time? Yeah, most of the time. Yeah, I mean, you know, I forced the tray back under the brooder last night. Worked out fine. All right. Yeah, no, I agree with you there. I agree with you there. Things, yeah, if you're, for me, if I'm, if I'm doing something and I'm continually encountering resistance, it, it, it signals to me, it's time to maybe step back for a second. Look at what's going on. My, my desire, what, what is it I'm trying to do that doesn't fit some way, somehow in some form. Right. And yeah. Yeah. It's like the old adage, you know, Want to make God laugh?

33:24 Tell them your plans. I mean, we do want a puppy. We want a dog in our life again. There is a lot of variables. So, I mean, it is quite an investment to start with. And then there's a lot of unscrupulous breeders out there. Let's just put it at that. and i mean i think we'd rather just go with someone we know and trust well i i 100 agree with that if you've found a good breeder stick with your breeder if you can and if you can't talk to them about someone that can help right you know because man there are they're just puppy mills everywhere and and people that are like they'll they'll take them an obvious mixed breed you know parent and and you know breed them with a purebred maybe and put out puppies that you know they look the part and then they'll akc register them and you're thinking oh i've got an akc registered yeah go i could register my rock you just go to akc's site pay them some money and my rock is now an akc registered rock probably not a rock but you know what i'm saying it's this isn't like some you know uh you know real certification right right so do your due diligence get a good breeder make sure you look for lineage pepper papers that's one of the

34:55 things that we both look for my wife and i is i want to see you know who the diamond sire is and who the diamond sire is for each of those as well right i don't need to go further than that but you If you find a reputable breeder, it's a tongue twister there. Find one of those people, and they'll definitely provide you with that level of information. And if you really wanted to, they'll go even further. And then you get into OFA certification, which they can't truly certify, but they can certify the parents.

35:36 And then they can offer you like, hey, at one year, get your OFA and we will guarantee that it'll come out good or better. Right. There's things like that. And if you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, don't go fucking buy a dog. Seriously. Do your research first. This isn't just like some thing that you purchase. It's a life. It's a living being. All those things are very, very important. So like while we could have a dog or a German Shepherd tomorrow, I don't, you know, like then you're looking down the road that, you know, there's probably going to be hip and shoulder problems and health issues.

36:21 And there's just, you know, there's a huge, I mean, not saying that even if we get it from, you know, the person we've been dealing with for a long, long time, there's nothing guaranteed. I mean, you know, like things happen, but of course, and even the guarantees that they do give you, you look, you know, I've, I've run into one, one time a situation where, you know, the guarantee wasn't entirely met. Right. And they were like, you know, we'll, we'll, you know, we'll honor the contract. But the problem is the contract is surrender. Right. You're not going to do that. Come on. Nobody, nobody does that. I mean, unless you're like some real cold hearted monster, you're not going to have a dog for a year or two.

37:04 And that's, oh yeah, just exchange it for another one. There are people out there that, you know, have dogs for very specific purposes. Working dogs are a big one. Show dogs would be another one. Right. You know, and by show, I don't necessarily just mean like, you know, the, you know, best of breed type stuff. There's also Schutzhund. there's a you know working class show dogs like the sheep dog you see the the events and they go out and they herd sheep so when i say show it's not all just in an inner in a ring with a you know suit on you know trotting next to your your dog you know there are a lot of different kinds of show arenas but in those cases you may find people that are like yeah because this isn't just my dog this is an investment in you know what i do for a living right right that's true police dog right they'd be like yeah we can't have that right we just can't so send them back you know on that subject we were actually talking to a guy that's a deputy here and and he he's he really likes the german shepherd breed and you know we asked him well why why aren't you like a dog handler you know canine unit and he's like well the problem with that is that i could never do it because those dogs aren't companions they're tools so like you have to take you know to me like my dog is my best friend i can't throw my best friend over a fence or throw it in an attic you know

38:36 after a guy that has a gun or a knife and you like you know it's going into a dangerous situation and and while they may feel bad that their dog got hurt i mean at the end of the day for for a working dog like that for an agency it is a tool it's a battering ram or a gun or you know like you know you don want to lose those things either but it you know i don think the emotional attachment is quite the same as your companion or pet And it not Real talk here. Real talk. I love all of our animals.

39:17 I absolutely do. But I would not intervene with my LGDs if they were going after like a pack of coyotes. house dogs, I absolutely would. Okay. So even there, right. The LGDs have a job and I love them. We give them all kinds of love and we give them treats and they're just amazing puppies, but I have a different emotional attachment to them than I do to the dogs that live in the house with us. It sounds weird, but in reality, that's the truth. If you take it that far, um that's what they're there for right you know what i mean right they're there to protect all of the other animals the horses the goats the chickens the turkeys the geese as well as you know the barn cats you know uh and to an extent us right uh but that's their job and they don't live in the house they live they have a you know they have plenty of room in a barn right and you know plenty of area to roam and do their thing.

40:25 But, you know, they, they, they, we don't have the same emotional attachment to them that we do to our house dogs. I can understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like if we brought a chicken in the house, we, we, okay, well now we have a house chicken. Okay. I've seen house chickens. Oh, my. Yeah. A little diaper on the butt. Yeah. it's not for me but i've seen people do it i mean i you know i did once did you really on a on a uh we were just playing around in some uh some uh chat group and they're doing truth or dare right and it was you know truth or dare and i'm like all right i'll take the dare and they're and they're like okay you have to get a chicken and have it do a lap dance for you while playing this song and video it so i did wow so you have you got a chicken brought it into the house put this song on put it on my lap you know kind of like you know in the same vein of the nose challenge right yeah i think i would have just taken the uh truth or whatever yeah you know it was all you know there wasn't anything like crazy or it was like that kind of stuff right it wasn't like nobody was being weird or anything like that it was all you know what i

41:58 mean well because those things can be all you know truth or derrick could go all kinds i've never actually played that game yeah really yeah maybe we'll do that that's okay i'm good I'll have a cookie because I don't eat cookies I'll be like not happening good you never know not happening no all right yeah I think that's probably for the best yeah I mean maybe I could go for like a dare you to play a crappy acoustic guitar cover song of some thing and sound really horrible I could do that one hey i think you'll do that without being dared right which is okay man it's all part of the the whole you know i i love that time of year i just really do it just i i look forward to it so much throughout the year me too i mean you should heck i'm planning the stuff by the time you know we haven't even gone six months since it ended and i'm already like okay what are the dates what are the dates yeah i gotta book the airbnb you know gotta gotta get it going in reality that airbnb is probably would have still been available right now but it's been booked for okay you know yeah yeah we've stayed at quite a few different ones oh what do you think about the airbnb thing

43:28 like um you think it's a better value than a than a hotel i mean it it works for us i think i think it's uh it depends it depends on what you're trying to do etc right because you can you can get a fairly reasonable hotel rate right um but yeah i mean it depends on a lot of things right hotel you're going to be locked into restaurant eating period um hotel you're going to be like you know you're not going to have a place for your stuff really you have a little closet and you're going to live out of a bag um you know the amenities will all be shared amenities which you know i'm not opposed to that but you know given the chance the option of going to a public pool or my own little pool in the backyard i think i'm going to take the backyard almost every day so i think it's just different Right. And when it comes to large groups, no, you can't beat Airbnb, right? You put, you know, seven, eight people into a house that's designed for that. Right. It's set up. I'm not, you know, don't be cool. Right. These are people's homes that they're renting to you. Maybe not always, sometimes it's investors, et cetera, but it's still some, you know, ostensibly someone or something's home. I don't know, not big on that whole aspect of it, but it's someone's home. So be cool right and and you know stick to the to the rules as much as possible but you know it gives you

45:02 the ability to take a group like a family gathering or you know alpaca or you know whatever right reunions whatever the heck you you want to do and put a group of people together in their own little private space somewhere to you know enjoy some time together so i think it really just depends on what you're doing and what you're trying to do i i have read horror stories no i i really have no experience on that end, but the, the, the, the fees and stuff that they stick it with afterward, is that excessive? Have they gotten worse over time? You know, I, I don't think the, they actually did do some rework on that. I believe, uh, this last year, was it, or this year? I don't remember. Um, and, and I think they're, they've been soliciting feedback they've asked me uh through you know a few things uh you know about this and i think the general consensus is this right is you go to an airbnb and there's a cleaning fee right but all of the airbnbs require you to clean right before you to a certain extent right and i'm sure that Like our rentals are, I would say probably on the minority, I would say most people leave them dirtier than, than we do.

46:22 I'm just, you know, like, sure. So I, I don't know if that's a warranted or not, but. I just look at it like this, right? If you're going to, if you're going to rent a place or, or have a place, leave it as good, if not better than when you got there. It's just, it's just that simple, you know? And, and, uh, you know, I don't really mind the fees so much except that one, right? Don't expect me to clean up. If you're going to have, if you, if I'm paying a pretty penny for someone else to clean the damn place, they can clean up. Like they can take the trash and put it outside. They can take off the bed and put them in the dry washer or whatever.

47:04 You know, they can take the towels out of the bathrooms and put them in the washer and stuff like that. no, I still do that stuff because you're asking me to, and I want to be cool. But at the end of the day, it's one thing or the other. You've got a crew coming in. They can strip the dang bed. They can get the towels. They're cleaning already. They're going to, I hope, visit every room. So why am I doing this? You know what I mean? You go to a hotel, you don't do shit for it, right? Right. And so that's, that's kind of the thought process right there, right? The hotels built in cleaning fees and everything else, Airbnb, that should just kind of be built into the price. And you shouldn't be expecting me to do all this minutia, uh, to keep your, you know, to, to clean up. Right now, if you're like leaving, you know, don't leave a mess. I'm not saying that, but I am saying if you've got cleaners coming in, they can strip the bed. I don't need to do this.

48:03 on the day I'm leaving. You know what I mean? That's all. Right. No, I mean, I would think like you have a garbage can, you throw your stuff in the garbage can, they could take out the bag as part of the cleaning fee. Maybe just easy stuff. Not, you know, I'm not saying like leaving garbage all around the place. Cause you know, we don't do that. I'm sure some people do that. I don't know. It doesn't say not to do that. I don't know, but. Yeah, no, it usually does. Right. And that's the stuff that I'm in agreement with. right? You don't leave the place trash. You don't, you don't leave like a stack of dirty dishes in the sink from all right. You don't stuff like that. Right. At least put the dishes in the dishwasher. Right. Um, but again, it's the little stuff. It's like you're, you're cleaning already. You can get the sheets, you can put them in the washing machine. You can do all this stuff. And, and I get it.

48:54 They're trying to cut down on their cleaning fees, et cetera. But you know, Hey, we're not, I don't know. It just seems odd that I've got to clean up and then you're going to have cleaners come in and clean where any other type of situation like this, where I am renting something, that cleaner is going to take care of all of that stuff. A la hotel. Right. Right. For the most part though, we've had a pretty good experience. I think with the, with that Airbnb every year, we haven't had anything too terribly negative. I mean, trying to get it. The door lock was a little wonky on one, the, the code thing. But besides that, the call, the call, the lady and the sons there and yeah, she, she wasn't feeling well at the time.

49:45 And, and apparently they couldn't get the door open and, and, uh, she lost her cookies right after the lady answered the ring doorbell camera thing. It was kind of a little late too. I don't know if it was like midnight or one o'clock or something. We were coming back in. I mean, it was a little awkward, just a little bit. I felt so bad for her. Oh man. She, she was not having a good time there, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I'm probably like the fifth time we're trying to get the code to work in the door and it's not working. And then, then the lady answers the doorbell. Can I, can I help you guys get in?

50:27 And then I'll on the background. Well, we're good. And then we got it open. Nope, we're all good. Thanks. It's like high school or college level shenanigans right there. But again, the guests have always left the place very clean and in very good shape. Yeah, no, I went out there with the hose and hosed it down. So it was all good. Like it never happened. yeah yeah no i nobody noticed nobody noticed no nobody i don't know nobody will know nobody will know they never said anything so i imagine they no besides that the place was we left it exactly like we came into it so you don't have nothing to complain about yeah yeah no we we and that's that's the big thing right we again just leave it as good or better and it turns out well so i like the airbnb thing i think you know sometimes you look at some of them and you're like yeah no you think really highly of your property don't you the ones you've stayed at in florida were pretty nice i i thought well i mean with the the sinkhole floor thing besides that that was minor stuff you know yeah i i they were they were great i had no issue the first place was was a little over a little bit you know

51:59 you're just over the top um that's a rock that's a stone on the wall yeah and chandeliers and chandeliers in the bathroom there was a chandelier over the master bath it it was interesting it was a nice place though it was right on the water it was beautiful it was oh it was great till the hurricane season that's probably not so great yeah that property got kind of i'm sure that thing's been flooded like 20 times in the last 25 years probably yeah but it was you know that's that's probably one of the reasons for the rock right you get flooded and you're like okay i'm just i'm getting red drywall yeah yeah let it only want it's rock you know tile flooring everywhere there is no no why there's floods i'm sure there's a reason for all those things yeah but the sink sinkhole house was pretty interesting that was that was weird i've never been in a house where the floor had holes in it you know what i mean like not visible like they'd put linoleum over the stuff or not linoleum uh vinyl the luxury vinyl planks laminate flooring yeah and and uh you know but there were holes under it and you're like whoa you know uh then playing jenga that was hilarious I was trying to find a little spot somewhere on the floor that you could put this.

53:33 It was the big Jenga though, not the little one, the big one. Yeah. The jumbo. True. That was fun. I enjoyed that. Oh yeah. We got that set up. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. It'll be fun. The game room in the garage was pretty nice too. It really was. I thought, and I guess a number of Airbnbs are doing this kind of stuff. setting room rooms and basements or garages, et cetera. And I think it's an amazing idea, right? Especially if you're in a family-oriented area or something like that, or you have families that are coming in, you know, kids go play in the game room, you know, family fun night in the game room, you know, ping pong.

54:17 They had a pool table, dartboard, arcade games, like stand-up arcade games and a pinball machine, right? Yeah. yeah that was pretty pretty cool that was nice it was nice i thoroughly enjoyed it the pool was nice the the place was nice you know you can gripe about anything right i mean like the pump the pump was a little loud a little it's like what is it was like a 747 coming into land it was similar right and it was all newer gear i looked at the pump was brand new it still had the sticker on it like they just had it done the week before yeah and so but it was loud like industrial strength freaking you know that was the professional grade pump i'm sure they paid for it we brought that one all the way back around nice so what are you gonna have we get planned for this saturday any uh yard work you all caught up um well we're never all caught up right so we've got we've got a few things going but this is our last probably our last maybe but so it got to 88 degrees yesterday and it's going to be seven degrees today and we're in september and the nights are in the 60s so this is looking

55:48 like yesterday we got in the pool today we're getting in the pool because we won't be able to do that until april may next year pretty soon here yeah this might be the last day of pool not because we we may get days that are warm enough to be in the pool but the problem is the nights are getting cooler and cooler and so it cools off the water so much that it doesn't matter how hot it gets in the day. It's just not warm enough to get in the pool. So, and I love the pool, being in that pool and having the view we have and all that stuff is just a, I, you know, literally we've had this conversation, my wife and I, it's like sitting on vacation and you know, there comes a point and you're like, why are we even here? You know what I mean? Cause I could be sitting in a pool on our property looking at this beautiful beautiful scene with our animals and everything it's like uh this isn't better than that you know what i mean this is different it's a different pool with a different view you know that that's does that make sense i understand your point completely i mean if it weren't for them if our friends and the people that we love we wouldn't leave the house there's no reason to same same well for the most part i keep knocking my microphone this guy over here messed me up there that guy messed me up he flipped our things

57:23 so now my thing's all wonky and then this thing and for a while there i was like this like hiding like i'm just gonna right here so hopefully that doesn't make too much noise me swinging this thing around i can't hear it massaging massaging you always yell at me when i do it oh my dingle my dangle my dingle thing yeah we're doing the mulch thing today we went and uh i i i loved 60 bags of mulch in the uh well i had to do two loads of it then I'll fit in the pickup truck at one time. Can you not like go to a company and have them drop mulch?

58:06 I know it's kind of a pain, but the cost difference is massive. Maybe. So like 60 bags, it's like, you know, 200 bucks, a little under 200 bucks. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what they would charge to bring this. You know, then you got to like wheelbarrow it halfway across the yard, which is quite a distance. you do but i mean like we pay we pay i think 500 bucks for nine cubic yards that's a lot of that's a lot i think one bag is like two cubic feet yeah right right so one in a yeah that's that's tiny compared yeah yeah we thought about the chip drop like you can get on the list and get the stuff free but you don't know what you're getting it could be anything like sprayed with stuff or you just don't have any idea i mean it's it's usually trees so it shouldn't be sprayed so much i don't know i don't know anybody that sprays their trees really but it could be like it could be toxic too so i I don't know.

59:21 Yeah. I think it's a great thing and I've, I've signed up for it and we just, it's never happened. Right. Our area just, so, but what I would do is, is go ahead and order it up. And because they're chips, I, I, you know, a little concern, right. Less concerned because it's from trees, right. You just not, people aren't out there spraying pesticide and herbicides. on trees usually, and it's kind of a very weird case, right? What are you doing? Like climbing that tree and spraying its branches? You know what I mean? Um, that's, that's us. But then again, you know, you don't have probably quite the same, like these may be smaller trees. They may be more ornamental trees that they're using for chips and stuff like that. And then which case, yeah, you could be taking in spray, but let it sit in a pile and off gas for a while. You know what I mean? Just let it go. And once you start seeing mushroom growth, cause you will with the wood chips, you should do better. Um, if you're not, then don't use them. Right. But after about a year, you should see some mycelium in there. And if you're seeing mycelium, then it's good to go.

1:00:36 you've got life in there you've got the the best part of a garden right i do see that with the stuff we're using it's just it's just bare cypress mulch there's no dyes or anything like that in it whereas i i didn't know like the the regular mulch you buy that the really cheap stuff that's dyed it could be anything in there like pallets construction debris like it's not even guaranteed like what it is no no it's not it's it it's like uh bedding for the animals right we get bedding sometimes and we'll go drop a bag in a horse stall or half bag we try and stick to about a half bag otherwise it's just waste waste it really you clean up poop and you get like you know way too much bedding in there and you're just throwing away solid good dry bedding but um we throw that there and you'll find little chips of like trim like painted white trim like a little painted white trim and I like really seriously it bedding it going in a horse stall it meant to be pooped i don care so much of it but i don like that because you know the horses will still do stupid stuff especially with new bedding and go down there and check out the new bedding and sometimes take you know a little taste of the bed like what are you doing of course you compost all that stuff right oh absolutely absolutely yeah we we do a pretty a pretty you know hands-off

1:02:16 compost type of a thing we just pile so january or so we have a cutoff and come january we start a new pile we have three little areas where we where we do a pile i say little they're big for Most people, they would say that's a big pile. Um, but we started them in January and just pile all the manure, food scraps, any veg that, that, you know, turned or was already bad, like, you know, drilled into by worms or whatever the case is, you know, uh, all that stuff goes in there. Uh, you know, if we mow the field, if we let it grow, sometimes we'll do that to let it go to seed and wait for the seed to drop and then mow the stuff down.

1:03:02 So we get that continuation, the reseed of the grass without ever having grass or buy seed. You can't do that in an HOA type situation or a city situation because they'll get really angry with you when you have nine foot tall grass out front of your house. But we don't have any of those, so we're good. But we'll take large clumps of the cuttings. sometimes there'll be a big clump that gets piled up on the bush brush hog bush hog and we'll take those and put them in the tractor bed and add that in there as well and we just keep doing that whole year and maybe four times a year maybe sometimes once a year we'll turn it but it's sitting there and it's it's hot you know it's real hot because when we turn it it's hot um and it's composting and we've been doing this for club you know coming coming up on a decade and we've had um the compost is better than it's we've we've gone entire seasons with just compost no fertilizing and we don't use chemical fertilizers all natural type stuff right so nothing that isn't organic which essentially means it's it's you know composted material anyway but um you know we've gone a whole season with with gigantic amazing veg uh and just used compost nothing else that's great yeah it is even the limited

1:04:36 compost we got with just the grass clippings and chicken manure that stuff excellent way better than the stuff you buy you know in a bag at the store oh without question yeah yeah it's it's uh it's a huge benefit and it's a huge benefit if you if you use your compost you can create compost tea um you can do others we could probably do a show on that we're getting a little long in the tooth on this one but um you know you can create compost tea and use it to water plants um you can also just lay compost just dress compost over your garden beds uh you know when they're growing when you first plant put some down and then when they get to the point where they're about to flower or they're starting to flower you you recognize that put some more compost down and when the fruits come in put a little more compost down and you're just feeding those plants you don't you don't need to use fertilizer you can just use compost if you've got good compost and really good compost just means you're having a mix of things.

1:05:44 You can do this, but I wouldn't recommend it. You could just compost grass cuttings, but it's not going to be what you want for compost. You want some grass. You want some dead stuff in there too, your browns and your greens, really. Exactly. Yep, so I think we're going to go finish the rest of the garden today, do the cardboard and the mulch on top deal. then we'll be done for the season as far as that. She's got some starts going because it's that time for us for our winter crop, I guess, whatever you want to call it. Yeah.

1:06:25 Get some carrots and broccoli and cauliflower and that kind of thing. Very nice. Yeah. Brazzicas. I love Brazzicas, man. I just do. I just love them. You know, cabbage, kale, broccoli cauliflower brussels sprouts you know i love brassicas i just really do they're so good i like that stuff i like that yeah brussels sprouts are really one of my favorite things they're like miniature little personal cabbages they're like the cornish game hangover the cabbage i enjoyed it when you made them they were good yeah have you guys not since no have you oh okay so nope other people's other people's yeah that's right we we tried it once before that and they weren't the best i mean i ate them but i didn't enjoy them quite as much yeah it takes a little bit of you know you have to you have to do them right i personally i'll eat them steamed i don't i don't care i i love right but a lot of people feel the way you do Right. And, uh, you, you know, I, I, we do, uh, the Brussels sprouts and clean them and then we'll, we'll, it depends on how I'm doing it, but a lot of the times we'll have them to make it a little easier. Um, and, uh, then, you know, use a pancetta, uh, salt, pepper,

1:07:57 olive oil, and pancetta and put them in a pan on a grill and do that. And, you know, get them kind of a little charred, get that pancetta crispy, close the lid so it bakes the Brussels sprouts as well. And it turns out pretty fantastic in my eyes. Nice. Sounds good. That's what you had. That's probably why it sounds good. Yeah, I liked it. It's good stuff, man. It's very good. so i'm not i'm not entirely certain what we're going to get into today we've got a few projects we need to get done uh i'm probably gonna i guess so i'll probably replace wall switches we got some new light fixtures put in uh we've got some wall switches that were just standard switches and they're dimmable and one of the light fixtures is it's like turning the sun on inside of the house so it needs it needs to be dimmed so i got to replace the wall switches with uh dimmers and then uh we've got a couple of more light fixers to put up in the house and then some uh at the entryway and stuff like this nice and while i really don't like electric work uh this is pretty easy stuff to get your multimeter out make sure to make sure the power's off you just touch both wires.

1:09:27 It's like a nine volt battery. Just stick it on your tongue and it's working. It's on. It's only 120 volts. It ain't going to hurt you. Well, you know, it might hurt and it certainly could do bad things to you, but you know, yeah, it's not that bad. Let me know how it goes. It's not the kind that's just going to fry you. I don't think I usually check it like three or four times just to make sure then I call the wife over and say hey touch this make sure it's off yeah I used to be a lot less concerned with that stuff until we had a house that was built in the 50s in Charlotte prior to this.

1:10:25 And look, in the modern world, if you turn the light switch off and there's no power to your light fixture, you can safely go and drop the light fixture out and put a new one in and touch the wires and you're good. In the 1950s, I don't know what kind of whatness they did, but it was weird and bad and everything junctioned into everything else. And so light switch goes off, lights off. And I'm up on the ladder taking the light fixture down. And I go to pull the wires out and I touch both wires and that came off the ladder. Back feeding on the neutral or something.

1:11:06 Yeah. Yeah. And so ever, ever since then, I'm like, yeah, just go turn the breakers off. Period. No breaker, no power. You know, it's easy. I seen some weird videos on like YouTube where power coming through like the the plumbing pipes like what Like somebody calls and says I getting shocked by my faucet And the electrician comes out there Yeah, sure enough. You know, putting a little tester on there. Power's coming up through the pipes. Yeah, that was another thing we had, right? And we're in North Carolina, so we get thunderstorms, right? You guys do too. but in the olden days there was this you know oh we know you need to have a ground right well you've got all these copper pipes running through your house so we just do a cold water ground yeah this is really good but it also means during a thunderstorm stay away from your freaking shower yeah and and that's just a potential issue right it doesn't mean that it could it will be But I imagine someone did something like that and then somehow got a hotline attached.

1:12:20 And yeah, now you're sparking at your water faucet. It's like the guy with the ignition key, right? Yeah, no, I'll never forget that one. That was interesting. He'll probably never forget it either. I would doubt it. Yeah, that would stick in my brain for a while getting zapped trying to start your car. Yeah, we got this one knife in the house, and I was cleaning it off. It's right after she sharpened it, too. It's so sharp, it cut me without even realizing it. But every time I touch that knife, I get that little tingly feel. I'm like, hey, careful with that thing.

1:13:01 I'm sure every time he turns that ignition key, he's like, eh. I don't want it. He's got two little wooden blocks in there. I'm sure that truck's long gone now. Maybe he'd get over it by now. Maybe he's probably got a push button. Everybody's got a push button almost now. I don't. I don't either. My wife does, but I have no push button. We were looking at newer cars. I don't know. I go down this path every once in a while thinking about it. Then I start looking at them. Yeah. I like my, I, yeah, I don't know.

1:13:43 I don't want all the stuff. That's, that's the problem I have with it. I just want, it's nifty. It's neat, you know, backup cameras and you know, all the whiz bang stuff and the big screen and all that cool crap. But it also, it comes with some, I don't want, look, I want to buy a car and have the car and it operates and it does everything it's supposed to and it doesn't connect to this or that and it doesn't need a download and it doesn't but i just want a car man it's you know so it's one of those things that's kind of weird coming from a tech guy though you think you'd want all that stuff oh yeah i i am a tech guy and i know enough about tech to have as little tech in my life as possible how's that you know i mean i have tech don't get me wrong but i don't have a smart house thing i don't want any of that i don't have ring cameras and i don't have smart sensors and blah blah blah blah blah because no is your thermostat wi-fi um it is the thermostat is that's the one piece and it's actually a requirement now yeah so like when we had ours uh our hvac system replaced a couple years ago i told them i don't want a wi-fi thermostat i want like a regular one in fact if you get the little round ones that you like with the mercury in them that you turn and like that's the one i want and they're like nope they're all wi-fi yeah you can't even get one yeah i think you might i mean you can buy one

1:15:21 but they didn't have any they're like nope that's what we have well we were the inspectors that when they come and do stuff that's a requirement really yeah is the thing and they told me they're like yeah if you want to take it off afterwards you can um in new in okay right not not in in uh like our situation if you're replacing from an old one it's not necessarily a requirement they all came with the units and i was like all right so yes we do have that um but i also take some different precautions with those as well it's watching you it's watching you you wrap it in like aluminum foil when you're not using it i i've had i don't i've literally thought about faraday caging the damn things that's how bad i just don't like them like even my tv right and and mine is just at the cusp where the voice activation voice talk to your tv i don't know why do i want to talk to my tv i want my tv to talk to me that's it no two-way i don't need to interact with my tv um but uh you know when we when we go to watch or we get done watching tv the the power strip that everything is plugged into gets turned off which is also plugged into a little you know battery backup that also gets turned off

1:16:51 that's how much i trust technology okay and right now your phone in your pocket is saying man he's talking a lot about tvs and thermostats we better show him a lot of ads for for tvs and thermostats it's true and and i'm actually uh i've been considering this and and i'm gonna go ahead and plug these guys above phone. Ramiro Ramani, I believe, is the gentleman's name. I think he started this company. And it's literally an older model phone, not super old. I think they have like the Pixel 9, maybe the 10 now. But they go through and install Graphene OS, which is a it's the open source version of android so it has none of the google hooks or any of that kind of stuff and then they overlay some apps and some other pieces you know xmpp etc to uh give you a phone that isn't constantly connected that isn't you know grifting on your life for data so they can sell you more stupid shit um or or worse right i mean let's just if we take it at face value it's to sell you stupid shit but i don't trust that i don't think that's true i think there's a far more nefarious reason for some of this stuff but um so i've been thinking about getting one of those

1:18:26 right um and and really going to the route of well you know now it's it's not you know it's not a thing i'll have to look at it i've never heard of it i don't know anything about it yeah when you know i mean hey if i didn't have to work i i think you know part of me would like to just get an amish buggy and then ditch the vehicle and if i can't get there on a horse horse and buggy i don't need to get there um and uh ditch ditch the the smartphone and get like, you know, some ancient flip phone or something that I could have.

1:19:09 And why would I do that? So that I could have a phone, obviously. I think it's important to have some kind of communication. But, you know, I think at that point I'd leave it at the house. Well, what's the point of a cell phone? Because nobody puts landlines in anymore. Do they still make stupid phones? Like just like a regular phone that it's only a phone and that's it? You can find them, you know. They're hard to find. Like even the little flip phones they want, they put all the smart crap into it. Well, yeah, because they got to data mine your life. I didn't know if they had like those cheap burner phones that you can buy for 20 bucks or whatever, you know, and then you buy the card to add time on it or whatever.

1:19:51 If any of those were just regular just phones or. They used to be, and I think you can still get some, right? The very simple. but even those i think still have like gps in them and you know stuff like that right so it's kind of like i just want a phone you know pre-gps all that kind of stuff i don't care i just put it in the house and it'll be there and when i get back to the house i'll look and see if anyone called and if not the phone will stay where it is and i might even just leave it plugged in the whole time and treat it like it was an old school landline.

1:20:34 Like I have to use it while it's plugged in. It can't move from this cord. So I'm stuck. I can't go with me. Sorry. Yeah. I enjoy not having a phone. I don't know. I mean, then you get a new car and you find out that they want you to subscribe and set up this account and everything else. The next thing you know, you find out that it sending all kinds of telemetry data back to Toyota including the internal cameras and the external cameras uh of the vehicle so how far back do i got to go to do like get rid of that stuff like 2015 is that old enough i think i think you i don't know i know if you get up to like 2010 is where it really starts to come into play uh in some models and areas i i think you're probably okay with some at 2015 probably like my online ford has an old microsoft microsoft stink in it that's the intelligence in the ford uh and i love that because the thing's busted it doesn't even work so it doesn't do anything there's no telemetry there's no account there's no nothing you know what i mean and it's already got a more electronics in it than i than i would care for none of that stuff either I'd be happy to go back to points and condenser, to be honest with you.

1:21:58 Yeah. Like we were going to take our car to come up to see you guys, but she does most of the driving. She enjoys the, the lane assist and the, what do you call it? The radar thing, whatever it is, the adaptive cruise control. Yeah. I don't know. It's nice. I guess if it works, but your car has that, we don't have that. Oh, that's the, Yeah, that's where we're going to rent one. You guys going to rent the sporty car? Are you going to go with the minivan? No, minivan's too expensive now. I don't know why. We're just a midsize SUV thing, whatever it is. Nissan Rogue or similar, whatever they give us.

1:22:40 Audi A8? No, we were looking at a little bit more. We could have got a BMW 3 Series or an Audi A4, I guess. I don't know both sporty cars we probably fit more crap in the back of an SUV though she likes to take like half the house like eight bags and you know things Airbnb that's the beauty of an Airbnb you can take the stuff that you know and love with my smithy iron cast iron that's right we did that last year and we will probably do it again yeah and and it it makes it in my eyes it makes it so much better right because you feel some of the comfort zone now you'll have to adjust to a new stove etc like you did with ours because you're you're electric so you come to gas and it's it's a different cooking experience much different yeah it heats up a lot faster like i gotta preheat my pan like 15 minutes before then yours is like a minute ready to go i usually do about a minute yeah with my heat up i do a minute and then i put the you know the lubricant in the fat of some form oil or ghee uh tallow lard whatever uh and and then give it another 30 seconds because that'll cool it down and you want that to come up to top and then right yeah but yeah about a minute and a half you know big difference

1:24:16 it is and i've had electric stoves before and yeah they they cook way different way different even the stove thing like so we consider getting a newer stove and like now all the electric ones they have like a sensor thing like where you put the pan i guess it's like just not as good they They don't just come on. The burners, yeah, you can replace the burners with like the old style ones, but by law, they got to have like a little sensor thing in the middle of them. They don't work as well. You have to make sure the child's hand is firmly on the burner before the burner won't get hot.

1:24:56 Yeah, so that makes a lot of sense. That a lot. It's for your safety. Yeah. Then, you know, it has Wi-Fi that tells you stuff like because you need that. my stove has Wi-Fi and I'm like, why in the... It's ridiculous. No. Why does your washing machine need Wi-Fi? Yeah. I don't know. Everyone wants to just sit on their phone and like, oh, I'm going to preheat the oven. Oh, let me start that load of laundry. Help my neighbor put a new garage door opener on. It's Wi-Fi. Because you need an app on your phone for your garage door opener no man no no i hate that stuff i just i really do i detest you can't buy it without it everything has it they don't even have a basic model no it just has it well i guess i guess we got lucky because we bought one about four years ago and it has no okay it has no yeah two two no it came with three three remotes and you know you key the it might be the brand one i don't even i don't remember right i don't know where he got it low is maybe something i'm not sure it's not surprising to me you know and then you know that they're trying to get more and more of this stuff into home automation and hey look if that's your gig that's that's cool i guess but just just know that all of that information all of that telemetry

1:26:29 is going to someone and they're mining it so that they can target you with chud you don't need uh but you're gonna think you need it because they're targeting you psychologically they're they're using psychological profiles to pattern you yep that's literally what's going on and so yeah no thanks i don't i don't want to be the product it's the same reason i i quit all social media uh like facebook instagram whatsapp you know but not telegram and we were going to talk about telegram we were actually going to open up about telegram we were we were dang it the best we missed it anyway you can catch us on telegram you can catch havoc on telegram i haven't quite signed up for it yet i'm halfway through the process you can catch me on telegram and the telegram channel is growing it's still small but hey join telegram find us there uh it's uh space tomatoes we'll leave a link we'll put an up try i'll see if i can put a link in the description uh before youtube was like yeah no we don't know who you are so i'm like it's two people My face is literally on the video every time.

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