Puppy Pandemonium, Pool Shenanigans, and Plot Armor Debates
Key Takeaways
- Havok and LX share stories about feral cat raids and waiting for German Shepherd pups.
- The hosts critique leasing a Hellcat and discuss the high cost of Bugatti oil changes.
- They debate Lord of the Rings lore and criticize rigged Tyson fights.
- The episode covers green pool issues and solar blanket hacks for home maintenance.
- Havok and LX argue that buying a Toyota is smarter than leasing expensive cars.
Buckle up for another episode with The Space Tomatoes Podcast hosts Havok and LX, where rural rants meet reel talk in the most unhinged way possible! This episode blasts off with Mark Twain haikus gone wrong, escalates to epic fails on remembering names (but nailing column numbers like a boss), and dives headfirst into animal anarchy, think feral cat rooftop raids, crunchy grass horse gripes, and the eternal wait for those dream German Shepherd pups (no Malinois madness here, thank goodness). From green pool woes and solar blanket hacks to the soul-crushing sins of dumping junk (or worse, kittens), we roast rigged Tyson fights, geek out over Lord of the Rings lore (spoiler: it's epic, fight us), and drop hard truths on why leasing a Hellcat is dumber than a Moby Dick book report. Plus, car nerdery peaks with $30K Bugatti oil changes and why your broke ass needs a Toyota, not a flex. Laugh, cringe, and subscribe, because who needs Netflix when you've got these two turning everyday chaos into conversational gold? New eps weekly; hit play and escape the mundane!
Frequently Asked Questions
What cars do Havok and LX recommend?
The hosts advise against leasing a Hellcat and suggest buying a Toyota instead. They also mention the high cost of Bugatti oil changes as a reason to avoid such vehicles.
What topics are discussed in this Space Tomatoes episode?
The episode covers pool maintenance, car ownership, and Lord of the Rings lore. It also includes stories about feral cats and German Shepherd pups.
Do Havok and LX discuss Lord of the Rings?
Yes, the hosts geek out over Lord of the Rings lore during the episode. They defend the epic nature of the series against any criticism.
0:00 we're back hi we're back we're space to be everybody that was it that's the intro that's all you guys get now that's it you want to see more intro stuff subscribe put a like in there maybe a comment or something sheesh all right fine ready welcome back to another episode of the space tomatoes podcast we're glad to have you here i'm one of your hosts havoc and i am lx hello again there you go there's the intro stopping by See, you got it.
0:56 You still probably didn't even subscribe. Just click the little thing. Click. It's done. One week. One a week. That's it. That's all. We're not going to inundate you with a bunch of shorts or whatever. Just hit the subscribe. It'd be cool. I won't even email you. Unless you want that. Then I can. I don't know how we would email them because we don't have their email. Oh, okay. Yeah. They'd have to give us an email. They can email us. You could email us What are our email addresses again there, Alex? Oh, come on I knew you were going to do that to me What was that again? I think it's Havoc at Spacedomatoes.net Is that what it is?
1:41 That's one, that's me Yeah, or LX at Spacedomatoes.net There you go Hopefully you can spell both of those names Right This is a little tricky Yeah, mine's got a K not a c you got to figure out which one that is though and you know i'm just gonna leave that alone if that stumps you better days are coming your way and if you email havoc he will uh email you back a uh hike haiku of of some kind of anything that you want him to any subject of your choice i i i don't think that's the thing i really don't oh okay that's that's not that's not gonna happen no but all right i may send you one of my favorite quotes how's that there you go yeah yeah and you don't know what that quote is it's safe it's not bad i don't know is it the one you have on your email because i have that one it is oh then i have it i know it well you do i don't know by heart but i know it i've seen it it's a very good quote good guy samuel clement also known as Mark Twain yeah that guy yeah he was a pretty cool character man he wrote some I think you should start dressing up in like a white suit riding steamboats and stuff yeah yeah
3:11 it's a different kind of straw hat than I'm used to wearing but alright I can dig on that maybe take on a little accent like he allegedly had. I don't know. I never met him. Yeah, neither did I. Didn't have the chance. We were doing different things at the time, I guess. Never ran into each other? No, you know. It's amazing, too, right? You think about it. A lot less people back then. You just would think you would have, but no, it didn't happen. Yeah, I think everybody knew everybody, right? That's how that worked. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Like you ever, you ever run into someone and they're like, Oh really? I have a friend. Do you know so and so? And you're like, I said, I lived in North Carolina and they're like, yeah, it's a state, you know what I mean? It's not small and there's not a lot of people, but like I know five, not, you know, a million and some odd or whatever.
4:17 I don't know that many people. So yeah, no, I've never heard of them. I mean, it's not quite as bad as somebody like running up to you and being like, hey, man. And then saying your name and be like, it's been forever. And then you're like thinking in the back of your head, like, who is this? Like, I have no idea who's talking to me. And you just kind of play along with it. Like hoping to eke out a little bit of information to jog your memory and make you not look like a complete idiot. I am so terrible with names. numbers I'm golden no no issue but with names I am so very terrible with names that I've actually just gotten past that wall and and I'll just tell people like I don't know I just don't remember you I don't remember your name I don't you know sorry I don't know what the hell you're talking about you sure it was me like oh yeah it was totally you and I'm like I mean it sounds like me but i just don't remember oh well blah blah blah and you know we'll talk and stuff and that's fine but yeah i i i'm so bad i'll meet people like uh you know for work or whatever and and i'll just let them know right off the bat and i'm horrible with names like terrible and so i'll let them know really i'm probably gonna ask you three or four more times in this meeting how about faces are Are you good with faces?
5:42 Yeah, fairly decent with faces. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So I'll know that I know the person most of the time. No clue. Like, it's so bad. I've literally had people tell me their name. And then, I'm not kidding you, 20 seconds later, it's gone. It's just gone. I've done. You have to use it in a sentence like two or three times. I've heard that works. I've tried that. I've tried the mnemonics. I've tried all sorts of stuff. And it just doesn't, doesn't stick. And, um, I actually went through a course with, uh, gosh, who's, it's like a very well-known company that does things like this. And I went through a course with them. And at the end of it, I'm like, okay, so this doesn't work for me. And part of it was they would have people, you know, do something online and, and, you know, they would tell you their name like three times or whatever.
6:36 and when it came to me i can only remember one person's name and now i can't remember for certain what the column number was but it was like 39ac or no 39a9 was a column behind them and so i'm like i don't know the guy's name but i can tell you it was 39a9 that was behind them and they were like so you know i ended up talking to him they said yeah there there are people that you know associate much better with things like numbers and they're typically really good at pattern recognition and things of that nature right just because they remember the numbers well enough to be able to recall them to pattern match right so no no that's that's very interesting it's my kryptonite i know it's your kryptonite it really lemonade it's apple juice oh okay that sounds good oh it's chilled chilled apple juice it's very tasty i like my apple juice on ice in a nice crystal glass it's very good yeah you seem a lot happier when you when you have a little bit of apple juice you know uh it's the simple things in life you know yeah nice yeah did you do the costco thing today did not did not we waited for it to rain so we'd been doing stuff around inside the house and we've had this storm coming up and pushing and it's it's probably 10 miles from us and it's been just like in a solid wall where it's just it keeps pushing up
8:09 against that wall and it's like inching towards us and i'm not kidding by inching and uh so far no rain i hope that we get some because we desperately desperately need it right now the Pastures are brown and terribly. The grass is crunchy. Horses, not real happy. But, you know, goats are okay because they still have tree bark and dead leaves and viney stuff and whatever else. But, you know, the horse is really not super pleased with the weather. Yeah, we had a small cold front blow in. I mean, for Florida, relatively, you know, speaking, a cold front.
8:50 so uh today was the first day we could actually open up the windows with a little fresh air and oh that's nice air conditioning that is nice i mean it wasn't like frigid or anything you know it's like it was 67 on our walk this morning which was nice yeah we we uh we've we've had last couple of days another another couple of days of that coming i think from the storm and uh we were able to open the windows on the first night but then this cloud cover rolled in and one of the things that you know just bums bums that whole thing is 70 degrees out but it's very high humidity yeah and that's no good for opening i don't want my walls dripping no all right the cats loved it they uh you know because they're inside cats but they get to go out on the patio when the doors open up and i think they're they're wild hunters of you know their feral nature comes back right i keep telling my wife you know we should we should just let bowsky out on the porch and the screened porch you know it's all screened in right yeah but she's worried he's going to go through the screen and i'm like nah it'll be all right yeah all he would ever want to do is come back in the house if if he were to get out i'm almost a hundred percent positive that cat would be sitting outside the door screaming bloody murder let me in you know what i mean i don't like it out here it's dirty
10:22 yeah no they think they're all that but i don't know i don't i don't know if they could handle it yeah well inside kitties he would also end up meeting domino and domino domino's way smaller like half half the size but domino is a brawler a bruiser he's lived his whole life outside so he's he's not you know he's a nice cat for the most part but like he gets in tussles with what our neighbor has you know i guess cares for some cats um we get a lot of feral cats out here You know, people, people are just messed up.
11:05 They literally will take their pets like kittens and just dump them out here. Like same with dogs. Really? Yeah. People, people, you know, I say all the time. It's not like it's happening on a daily or a weekly basis, but you know, I hear about it several times a year. People come across, you know, or see someone in a car, they're out in the country and they toss out you know a box or something in the box is a bunch of puppies nice it's like what what do you what's wrong with you you know what what honestly is wrong you are broken something inside of you is terribly terribly broken i mean what do they think happens to them all they just you know like i don't think they care they just don't want to they don't want them to be their problem yeah i suppose yeah i think people people do that about a lot of things like i mean i'll never understand why some people you know like and they'll have no qualms about it like throwing their old mattress out on the side of the road like dude i you know why wouldn't you take it to the dump like a normal person or all their garbage it just it it irritates me we we get a fair share of that crap out here too honestly where my uh where my in-laws live somebody dumped an rv like they stripped all the aluminum off of it and then they just dumped it at the end of the street let somebody else deal with it i guess yeah i mean if it crazy right i guess yeah
12:39 i mean at the end of the day you know they're probably just trying to get away without having to do any kind of like you know fee for disposal city comes by after so long they'll take it to a compound you know impound yard after about 30 60 90 days it goes to a scrap yard i guess unless they can find the owner it was an empty lot And you know like somebody thought that would be a convenient place for them to dump that They actually did it twice. Like they had two RVs. And then whoever owns the lot has put up cameras since that. And put up like no trespassing signs and no parking signs and all the signs.
13:19 I mean, I don't know how much of a deterrent that is, but I haven't seen one since. It helps. The cameras will help more than anything. people see a camera and they're like, yeah, okay, this isn't our spot anymore. People are on to this, you know, because the owner of the property probably has to deal with that or they have to call the city and the city is like, well, it's on your property. I think that's how that is. I mean, I guess you could push it out in the street and then that's the county's problem to deal with. Right. Hook it up to the tractor and just right out in the middle of the street. Yeah, that would be inconvenient too. Yeah, but someone would call and they'd get it removed real quick, I bet.
14:03 I'm sure. Whereas if it was parked on the side of the street nicely, it'd probably take a week, two weeks to even get there. Yeah, I don't know who actually hauled it away. It just kind of wasn't there anymore. Probably the city, unless it was the owner and just went fine. Yeah. But who knows? I don't know. It's messed up. Don't do that. Don't dump your junk. Take care of your junk. It's an important thing. And your dog poop. Pick it up. If you can take your dog on a walk, and they're going to poop, pick up the poop. Put it in a receptacle somewhere.
14:43 Don't be leaving that stuff for other people. It's not cool. It's uncool. Yeah. Don't poop on the sidewalk yourself. That's very rude. If you're going to do that, pick it up. Take it with you. Put it in a receptacle. that's all i'm gonna say probably a bad idea in the first place but at least pick it up take it to a receptacle okay we're off that puppies puppies again right it's always puppies that's the default right there straight back to puppies we're still waiting to hear about the puppy thing really no news no news yet it's been months well i mean i guess you know dog's only going to heat every six months or so so like i said we're kind of waiting for the next uh oh so they they okay so they don't even have a a pregnant female yet no not yet i see okay but you know it's not it's not just like a random mating of two random dogs you know like they have the pen hip x-rays and all that stuff so you know yeah yeah sure yeah and that's yeah that's that of a certification and all that stuff just to make sure yep and that's that's critical stuff i mean it really is it also means you're getting a puppy from a reputable breeder and they're not a puppy mill yeah no puppy mill is going to pay for that kind of stuff.
16:16 It's just not going to happen. Because they won't pass. So, I mean, we could have a dog tomorrow. Just not, you know. It's one of those, you know, throwing, tossing the dice kind of things. That's a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad idea. Yeah. So, anyway, we have a history with the guy we're dealing with. Yeah, and that's a good thing, right? I mean, if you can stick with your breeder, If they can't, you know, assist you or they're, you know, getting out of that business or retiring or whatever, talk to them about other reputable breeders. They usually are partnered up or at least in good on good terms with, you know, a number of other breeders that are like minded.
17:01 True enough. true enough that's what you know eventually will end up doing uh as well because the breeder for our rottweiler is no longer breeding right so but there are other people that she's recommended so that's good hopefully you won't have to worry about that for a long time fingers crossed knock on wood man very long time i mean we did have the thought for like half a second maybe we should get a malinois because they they live longer but are you are you crazy yeah a little bit are you actually no i mean like actually crazy come on man it's just like a german shepherd right no it's not it's like someone put a jet pack in a and an alligator snapping turtle on a german shepherd yeah well he he does he does males too he's so but he uh he also does dutch shepherds and he said no no that probably wouldn't work out for you yeah i mean mouths are awesome but you you know you just you really have to dedicate a ton of time and you i mean they bite they just bite they they're very mouthy they love to bite you know they they will clack their teeth together more often than you can imagine when they're puppies i've had a couple of friends with mouths so they're they're amazing dogs they really are they're extremely intelligent but they have an insanely high all of the belgian shepherds i think have insanely high prey drives and you know
18:38 they're very they're very mouthy they like to put their mouths on things so which i guess for for some you know places that need that that's a good thing right that's debatable as well but okay I don't know nah we're just gonna stick with the good old German German shepherd yeah yeah I'm gonna stick with my Roddy's I just absolutely adore that breed it's it's just it's perfect for me it's kind of weird how we all get stuck on you know I mean some people don't I guess some people do but i mean i don't know it's kind of drawn towards them yeah i mean my life really i don't know why i've had a you know let's see a golden retriever siberian husky uh samoyed and a pitbull and okay then i've had a rottweiler and then a rottweiler and then a rottweiler and i'm sticking with rottweilers i think you found the one for you then huh oh i did I mean, very few things come close to the destructive potential of a Rottweiler puppy.
19:51 And I mean that very much, but if you know, if you take the time to research and really invest some time in understanding the breed and how to properly raise them, it is not the same. It is not, this is not a, you know, I'm going to get a lab and it's going to be cute and sweet. and maybe it will be obedient, maybe it won't, but it's so cute. Look, oh, it's kind of funny. No, you cannot do that with a Rottweiler. This is a danger type of a situation, right? But once you've got them trained and you get them from a reputable breeder so you know that there's no history, because aggression can be kind of something that's bred into dogs as well, right?
20:37 You can have aggressive tendencies And you will find that some of the offspring will also have aggressive tendencies. And if you breed those together, then you could end up with just a heavily aggressive dog. So, you know, but once you, once you learn, you know, reputable breeder again, and then once you learn about the breed and you learn how to train them and how to exert dominance over them, you know, and this doesn't ever mean striking your dog, right? It does not. You don't, just not a necessary thing. right um you know you exert dominance over them and then you once you have that dominance it's important to continue to keep and maintain that dominance and for them really it comes down to this as long as you are consistent with them and i mean 100 all the time consistent they are in my eyes, some of the best breed. It's, it's an amazing breed. Absolutely amazing. And I can guarantee you, if you've got a full blood Rottweiler, it's a real, you know, especially German lines Rottweiler. I'm, I'm pretty much in the camp of, I put good money on the fact that that dog doesn't need to know how to protect you and your family. If something happens, that dog will 100% go to the mat all the way, full gas, no stopping.
22:05 Right? Yeah. And that's one of the benefits of Rottweilers, right? You've seen these prank videos or the people or training videos. People come running into the house and start, you know, wailing on someone with like a phone thing or whatever. And it's like, what would my dog do? I haven't seen a single one where they've done that with a Rottweiler. Hmm. I mean, you know, I know mine, right? Like we have to introduce people to her slowly, right? She needs to decide to come up to you. And then once she does and you make contact, then she'll be your friend, right? She's all on board. But if we don't do that, I know for a fact, my dog will exhibit aggressive tendencies towards other people because they aren't part of the pack.
22:54 they haven't you know nobody's formed a a place for them in the pack they this is an outsider and that's all it takes so it's kind of a cool thing yeah no it's important to be able to recognize those things and be able to handle those situations ahead of time oh absolutely absolutely get some more of my homemade apple juice over here apple juice So my wife's been taking care of the neighbor's cat behind us. They went on a little vacation. Took off to California. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, that's nice. You're all stomping around.
23:35 I don't know where. Somewhere out there. All right. Yeah. So she's been taking care of their cat. He's a big boy. He's like probably 20 pounds. Oh, geez. He's an indoor outdoor cat. Short hair? yeah just a regular old cat really regular old big cat fat cat big he's a big boy yeah no he's just he's muscular really yep he's like one of these meme cats it's all yoked like kind of walking up like a bulldog or something you're like dang dude kind of like he likes to go up on his roof and he and he jumps down and like he jumps down on the uh the cover for their uh jacuzzi like that foam stuff man you can hear that stuff in our yard like don't he's pretty that's hilarious this is the the guy in the back yep awesome yeah yeah cool cool guy she had the she had to message him today uh apparently his pool's turning green we don't really know much about pool care it happens the chlorine's under here you can dump some in there yeah ours ours turned a little green I'm remediating that situation, but it's too cold to get in at this point.
24:46 Yeah. So it's not something I'm going to worry about. A green pool can be rectified next spring. Yeah. That's kind of what you do. I just checked his the other day. It was like 87 or 88 degrees, the water in there still. You're kidding. No. I mean, unless the thermometer is wrong, that's what I was saying. Ours is like 70. that is cold believe it or not it doesn't seem like it like a 70 degree day oh it's a you know it's nice t-shirts fine a 70 degree pool is cold very it feels cold at first that that river we went kayaking and that's 72 all year around and that felt that feels pretty chilly when you get in there i mean we didn't really go in it in it but yeah yeah in a pool if you sit in a 70 degree pool, you're going to want to get out.
25:43 You are. Like, you know, 80, 78, 80 is, I'd say 80 probably is about the lowest I ever want to see a pool temp if I'm going to be in it. And even that, it better be hot out. Because 80 degrees I mean you know we 18 and a half degrees over that So it is constantly leaching heat from your body And you're not able to replenish it because most of your body is in the water. Hmm. So. That's true. Yeah. Then you got like the older lady who used to live next door to us. She, they got a pool heater on that thing. She used to keep it at like 95 or something.
26:25 Oh, that's a jacuzzi. exactly it was nuts i kind of like it for me the perfect pool temp is about 86 86 is about perfect it's just comfortable it's cool enough but it's not like shocking it's comfortable yeah it's a perfect perfect temp so the neighbor behind me he doesn't have a pool heater but his wife loves the pool but you know when it's a little cooler like right before the season starts what he does is he gets those big black like contractor trash bags and you can like let them float on the surface of the pool oh yeah dude it works it's like it's like a heater on that thing it's just you know i mean i guess if you live in a sunny climate yeah they i thought he was kind of full of crap at first but he's like no it works good they actually make sure enough uh covers uh they're called solar blankets right and what it is is like a pretty heavy duty um i want to say it's like six mil uh and and it's got bubble wrap yes i was going to say they look like little bubbles right yeah and you put put those over there and and then it kind of floats on top of the pool it keeps the the the heat from evaporating right um that's not what i was trying to say not evaporating uh but you know what i'm saying um no like the heat transfer yeah yeah exactly exactly evaporative cooling that's it that's what i was trying to say not heat evaporating kind of sorry evaporative cooling it keeps the evaporative
27:59 cooling from from being you know the whole surface of the pool but maybe just a little bit around the edges and then it allows sunlight in right and it just it makes a pretty huge difference you can probably get a good six degrees of temperature rise just by putting one of those on there nice yeah it also helps with actual evaporation which is a real thing right if you've ever had a pool there's like this constant i gotta go fill the pool right because it gets low and then the skimmer's not working and then you're you're you know gonna damage your pump because of cavitation in the pump where air gets into the water flow and you hear it kind of go and all that good yeah we used to take care of the one next door before they moved it was because you know these they lived up north 99 of the year but yeah the whole filling the pool up was a thing it is it is no leaks it's just evaporating right so i could have sworn there was leaks in there man that thing sometimes it would just go down to like quickly yeah especially in the summer in the in the hot when the sun is you know when you've got kind of the summer track for the sun and it's coming up early and it's just hitting that water all day long it's just evaporating right so it it's it's pronounced because you've got a very large volume
29:30 of water, but it's in a cylinder, right? So it's evaporating fairly quickly. And yeah, we've seen it. I've had to probably fill like every four or five days in the summer. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Well, and then you've also got the weekly, at least weekly back flush and rinse, right? So you have to back flush your filter. If you, unless you have a cartridge filter, We use a sand filter. And so all the chud gets kind of trapped up in the top layer of sand. And then you back flush. And what it does is kind of push the water the other way through the filter and pushes all that crap out. Right.
30:11 And then you rinse it, which basically just rinses the sand and pushes it back down, but also filters it back outside of the pool. so that when you go back to filtering, it doesn't push all the sand and stuff into your pool. Neat. Yeah, yeah. Pools are pretty interesting to think about. They're like total chemistry experiments. Yeah, my wife would like a pool, but yeah, after seeing some of the repair bills for the neighbors, like when stuff goes wrong, no thank you, I'm good. I'm good not having a pool. Yeah, I mean, it depends on, you know, depends on a lot of things, right?
30:56 But in general, like a typical above ground pool, you guys would have to cut your trees down. That's the biggest thing. You've got way too much shade, which you want where you live. Way too much shade in your backyard to put a pool. Now your front yard, you could put a pool in, but I imagine the neighbors in the city and everyone else would be like, you can't do that. year yeah no unfortunately i think we're probably going to have to cut that tree down in the back that was kind of just like a little uh that cherry laurel thing i don't think they lived that long i mean it grew it grew fast but i think it's probably going to have to go you should put a big oak tree up there well that would be nice and i know a place where you can get a lot of acorns in november nice oak tree but they just don't grow that fast nice oak tree or hickory yeah come back in 50 years it'll be good yeah but it'll last a few hundred i mean so there is that i mean that's the sad part they're putting all these developments in man when they go in there they just scrape it every yeah right down of the nothing yeah when we at least when they built these houses around here they you know they cut out the enough space for the house and left some some trees yeah some some neighborhoods actually uh require developers to keep so many trees per area i don't know what the
32:30 what the the numbers are on that but it's it's kind of like uh you know when i was living on the hog farm right we did we did some you know cutting of trees we never did clear cut right we did selective cutting and in selective cutting you would have to have like per acre you would have to leave like you know five you know five mature uh furs five mature pine five mature you know whatever but the rest you could take right and stuff like that and in a neighborhood i think that that lens i love it right i i hate these sterile like disneyland clean neighborhoods i just they and i get that i get that people have interest in that and and i totally do i i do get that but for me it's just so homogenous right it's just so sickeningly amusement park theme park type living you know what i mean no thanks yeah and they're pretty close together yeah what is 36 inches between between you know from something like your house to your your lot line better hope you like your neighbor well yeah where i lived for a good portion of my life you could literally like i mean you know kitchen window to kitchen window all you'd need is a broom
34:05 handle right with a little spatula on the end of it you could pass sugar or whatever back and forth because literally it was 36 inches it was you know my wall 36 inches was a fence 36 inches was their wall so 72 inches you know maybe 75 or something in between the houses 75 inches right and this is normal for a lot of people and and i don't have any interest in that sort of normal, none, zero zip, zilch, not a kind of nothing. I don't either. No. I mean, it's bad enough as it is, but I wouldn't want it any worse. Yeah. Yeah. I can't, I can't stand that stuff. It's just like, even where you guys live, right. Is, is you've got kind of some individual, you know, It's not homogenous, right?
35:05 You've got kind of a little character here, a little character there. And, you know, people kind of do their own thing. And you've got different front yards and different facades for the house and different sizes and all that stuff, right? It's those planned communities where you look at those and you just go, why? I don't know. well that's what it is because when they built here you know it was individual builders people would buy the lots and then you know multiple different builders would come in and you know build the houses and then you know later on they come in and that's when they clear cut everything down and they you know build basically the same house they might mirror the floor plan a little bit but everyone's identical they usually have five floor plans okay um and then they will help that along by so they don't put like the same floor plan right next to each other typically but sometimes they will and it's funny too because my brother had a house like this where he had the exact same floor plan as his neighbor it was just flipped right and and so it didn't look like it was the same floor plan when you pull up but as soon as you like realize what's going on it's the exact same house it's just literally flipped right so like there was a sliding glass door on this side for my brother you know on the right side but it was on the left side for them well if you took
36:36 their house and flipped the the whole thing it was an identical copy right but so they'll they'll intermingle them right and they'll go like three houses of different styles and then they'll mix in one of those three and then kind of rotate it through. So your eye doesn't catch the pattern or shouldn't. Right. And you don't see the same house, but it is all the same house. And so they'll have those five floor plans and then they'll have the same five floor plans reversed so they can get away with, you know, down when you look down a street, you're not going to pick up well that one and that one and that one are the same house you know it's interesting they they were doing a lot of that building and then like right around 2008 they just kind of stopped that for a while and it's picking up again i can i mean you know every time we go out we're like holy crap man like there used to be woods there now there's a bunch of bulldozers and the dirt hauling trucks.
37:44 Yeah. And that's nothing that's starting to happen around. Do you, Oh, you want to hear something interesting? Do you know what the acre cost for just land is here now? No. Take, take a gander. Oh, I don't even want to know. Cause I was interested in actually buying some. Now I can't afford it. No, we found, we found some for you oh yeah but right near where we are um so 30 000 an acre you're you're close more 37 000 for an acre that's mental now now i don't live like on the coast of california or something okay this is in rural north carolina but we have now crossed over that kind of golden zone, they put in a toll road. And so where we were over an hour away from a major city, now we're 50 minutes from that major city, 50, 55. And so psychologically there's been studies done on this.
38:52 People are willing to commute up to an hour, right? So they'll look for a home that's affordable and they be willing to go an hour away from work And once that toll road came in all of a sudden this area became far more available to people to get, I would say, cheaper homes and land. And unfortunately, as more people realize this, the cheaper homes and land start to dry up because they become less cheap. what happened what's happening to you is exactly what happened here because they put in a toll road to go to tampa about 25 years ago yep and that's when everything started getting a little bit crazy so the last empty lot on our street they just uh surveyed it and the stakes are all up i looked it up online it's these are just you know standard quarter acre lots nothing special 47 000 they paid for that for a quarter acre for a quarter acre no hell it was bought by a builder obviously they're going to build a spec house there oh absolutely right yeah and and we're we're looking at a lot of farmland around here and the current generation doesn't want to farm um and you know i i honestly i can't blame them you know the way things are going it's it's it's hard to make
40:22 money farming uh it is difficult yeah outside of sitting there and and getting you know subsidies that's that's the only way you can really make money farming is to be so tied in and mired into bureaucracy that you're getting subsidies and if you're not getting those subsidies subsidies you're you're you know and you have to pay for insurance right people maybe you don't know this but farmers actually have to take out insurance, right? Crop insurance. They take out rain and hail insurance so that an event like Helene coming through our area doesn't wipe out your entire season and you have all the input cost and no return, you know?
41:13 And these guys operate on razor thin. I mean, these are commodities, right? So they are, they are, they are razor razor thin margins and you know, a rain event could bankrupt you. Just you're done. That's it. What happened? It rained. So it didn't rain enough. Right. Or yeah, as we're doing right now, it didn't rain enough or someone decides to get into a trade war and, and your soybeans just don't get sold anymore. because they go, well, screw you, then we'll buy them from somewhere else. Yeah, or your buyer decides, yeah, we're not buying them from you anymore because we don't like your country anymore.
41:57 That's kind of what I... Screw you, and we're going to stick you with them. That's kind of what I just said. Yeah. Yeah. And the neat part about that is then we get to make up that deficit by paying for that. Hmm. We, you know... Hmm. Puppies. that's my apparently that's my safe word or something there you go hmm take a sip of that uh apple juice missed it by that much you remember that show no what is that you don't maxwell smart get smart before my time no your childhood sucked then it's more like knight rider and the dukes of hazard yes your childhood well dukes was good let them dukes doom dukes the a-team the a-team i watched i just saw a thing a thing with t oh yeah he was being interviewed and i i want to say it was donahue but i don't know who it was an old time oh so it's an old interview well yeah and and they were asking him because he legally changed his name to mr t and he's like he's like so you know is is that your real name and he goes
43:28 you know if if pope pope john paul ii came in here would you be asking him what his real name is and he's like well you know he goes well i changed it so my name is mr my middle name is the dot in between them. And he goes, my last name is T. And he goes, I did this to command respect. My first name is literally Mr. So if you address me, you will call me Mr. Which is a commanding, a command of respect. And I was like, that's actually pretty interesting reasoning. Right. And, and it had a, an undertone of the era's, uh, socially accepted speech i guess yeah he's got to be getting pretty old huh oh i have to imagine he he was in probably in his you know late 20s when i was single digits or something he's 73 years old yeah okay so not quite well yeah right around there somewhere maybe not quite yeah yeah he was in pretty good shape back in the day he's almost 20 years older than me he was in pretty good shape you know who's in amazing shape still to this day that's right you you sexy little
45:00 beast you no who's in good shape Mike Tyson man oh yeah that guy is shredded for his age last time i seen him i uh i saw him we actually watched that boxing match that he was i dude that thing was rigged oh the the the paul guy the logan paul yeah yeah you that was a bunch of garbage you could see there were a number of times where tyson was like you know i mean he like he took a jab but you know it was like he pulled it you could see He totally pulled it, didn't even hit him, and the dude was wide open.
45:42 Wide open. I still, I just, you know, and maybe this is fantasy. Maybe I'm wrong on this. I'm not an expert. But I really think that that was just so rigged, right? I mean, so rigged. So, I don't know. I mean, I'm not a boxing expert either, and I never watch that stuff. You just happen to have it on that night. But, yeah. it didn't seem uh legit it was rigged as it was so freaking rigged dude the guy i'm sorry tyson even at his age it's only going to take one solid contact and that guy is going to put a hurt and i mean a massive hurt and there were so many places where he had all that opening In fact, in one point I remember, you know, he was, uh, the pole guy was in guard kind of like guarding his face and Tyson kind of like just, you know, give him a couple of little pats, little, just little taps on the side.
46:47 Like, I'm not even hitting you, but if you keep doing this, I'm going to like, your liver is going to be in Canada. Okay. And I was like, dude, this is not a real fight. This is nowhere near a real fight. So on the flip side, Tyson's old, man. I don't know what he can take anymore. Right. Yeah. But do you know how old he is? I think he's like 59, 60, 61, something. I don't know. Let's take a look. 59. Yeah. Good, good guess. Yeah. I knew he wasn't much older than me.
47:28 um you know a few years so there you go that's how old i am i'm ancient so i'm not batman 100 grand would you go one round with him not a fucking chance no fucking way that's death dude that dude seriously just gone you you you're done this is just not no traumatic brain injury would be the best outcome of that and no thank you how about for a ford gt free and clear nope half around no again he's one hit and that's it dude no not a chance No freaking way.
48:17 I am not some, you know, chair warrior over here. I know my limits, man. Not a freaking chance in hell I would go up against that guy. I mean, once you get knocked out, that's it. You're done. You get a car. That's assuming you wake back up. Yeah. No, that's the reality of that, right? And even if you do wake back up, that's assuming that, you know, you didn't suffer like a serious traumatic brain injury. And now you are, you know, special for the rest of your life. And you can't even drive a car because you're not capable of driving one.
48:58 You can sit in your Ford GT and make vroom vroom noises. Yeah, no thanks. No thanks. shift it yeah i i don't know i'm not one of those guys like i know people like that and they're like oh yeah you know i could go dude stop just stop just literally just stop because even at his age at 59 years old that boy he connects one time and that's it that's all there is and it's a done deal how about one round with that other guy that paul guy no i am he's a heavyweight no i tell you no i am not a professional fighter i i prefer not to fight to be honest lover not a fighter right what's that you're a lover not a fighter i mean you know that's my preference yes i would prefer yeah i mean you know don't get me wrong back me into a corner and you know i'll do what i have to do but my preference is that's that's the last resort man that's that's to hopefully influence an outcome where people aren't gone yeah what's that animal that you took like a honey badger or something somebody backed you into a corner pretty much yeah yeah back me into a corner and and yeah it gets different it gets a lot different
50:34 until i'm there i'm going to choose every route available to me to exit because there you go because those things are unpredictable you don't you don't know what's going to happen that's true very true very true you'd be the toughest guy on the block until you know the guy you're facing pulls out you know knife and next thing you know you're leaking oh look at me i'm not so tough anymore it's not helpful right or you know if they happen to be you know someone that's that's well versed with the second amendment you know next thing you know you're leaking from multiple places front and back.
51:17 Not a good scenario. You know, just don't do it. Just let it go and figure out a way to use the exit, pull the rip cord, walk away, find a different method. You know, did I hear you say pull the rip cord? Yeah. We going skydiving. Preferable. Change your mind. It's preferable to that. It's like a segue, right? would you rather box one round with mike tyson or go skydiving i'm i'm diving skydiving yeah me too oh hey i forgot earlier i was gonna thank everybody for showing up for our uh live stream it was fun that thing was great i enjoyed it it was it was a good time yeah yeah if you miss this one maybe we'll have another one oh we're definitely gonna do another one yeah yeah i had a good time with it i think we're going to drop it to a solo platform though we didn't get any attendance on the other platforms so you know until we start to get more attendance on those i'm not gonna i'll promote them still because i do think that they're great platforms but i'm not going to you know put the extra time and effort into trying to monitor you know three separate chat channels as well as the the recording as well as the live stream and all that good stuff yeah no i really really enjoyed it i thought that was great it was fun it was fun yeah and and and we had some people win you know uh certificates for the jones plantation movie they all enjoyed it
52:53 You know, it's a good production. So check that movie out, Jones Plantation. If you just go to Google and type in Jones Plantation movie or Jones Plantation film, that'll take you to wherever you can find it. I believe you can find it on Amazon Prime as well as Fandango. It is not on Netflix, I don't believe. Because, yeah, whatever. It's Netflix. Nobody cares. yeah no we don't have netflix anymore we don't have uh we get rid of the paramount thing we get rid of i think the only one she's got is stars now for a little while yeah yeah we typically watch her romance we typically use dramas prime because we sign up for prime right um oh yeah we do have that one yeah so we use that and then we use fandango at home which is which is nice you You know, it's not like you can just go stream on it.
53:51 You have to purchase stuff. But once you purchase it, it's, you know, it's kind of like you own the digital rights to that copy of it. So I can watch it from my phone, from a tablet, from my laptop, from my TV, from my computer or whatever I want to. Yeah. I don't have a tablet. A lot of people going back to the physical media. They're collecting the Blu-rays again. I want, really badly want a DVD player for things like that. I've got some old DVDs that I would like to watch, you know? Hmm. Yeah. I have my favorite movie on DVD. What's that? What?
54:31 It's a little disc. Your favorite movie? It's, you know, same size as a CD. Yeah. You can actually play them. I'm asking what your favorite movie is. Oh. Yeah. Well, it's a good movie. Yeah. You should watch it sometime You don't want to tell me I don't want to tell anyone Alright It's not what you might think it is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory No No Alright I'll tell you this, it's a fairy tale movie That's all I'm going to say Titanic Titanic You get that on VHS though everybody had that on vhs i did not so i am not everybody every time you go to a yard sale or a thrift store man they got like 100 copies of that stupid thing i never owned a copy of it i did go see it in a theater and it was a great movie you did yeah yeah i did pretty long with a bunch of friends and we had a great time um but yeah never had an interest in watching it again um yeah never had an interest in owning it but i will tell you i watched the lord of the rings the entire trilogy every christmas so i'm probably gonna make a lot of enemies with this i have never seen the lord of the rings i've tried to watch it several times dude i just cannot make it like i'm like oh i knew this was gonna happen everybody loves that movie i don't know why everybody loves that
56:12 movie i just i don't know i knew that was gonna happen wow who are you even right i've tried it before i i've made it like maybe 45 minutes into it one time that was it yeah i i just couldn't do it it is the most epic fantasy movie trilogy series ever created and it's so so right in line with the book i mean the books i should say i grew up with this stuff though my my dad when i was when i was eight seven when i was seven my father got me i think i was seven my father got me uh hardcover editions of the hobbit and uh we went and saw the the release of the hobbit it was an animated feature film in the 70s in a theater um so for for me it was kind of, uh, you know, it was an early, you know, childhood thing that I got turned on to. And I, I read very well when I was younger. Um, so, uh, well above my, my age and, and
57:42 I thoroughly enjoyed the book, um, the books I should say, uh, and never turned back. And then you know they released another one at some point and it was and then this one came along and it literally i had very low expectations i remember when dune the first dune came out back in the 80s was it and i remember watching that and i had read the dune series it was a travesty i mean it was the worst thing that ever happened like the the book the books were mind-blowingly good and then the movie came out it just like whitewashed over and skipped like massive areas and you're like you cannot possibly you won't understand what's going on and you didn't and they put it into like some weird kind of flash like you know memory hole acid trip type a BS or something, try and like speed that through or something. It didn't work. Right.
58:53 Lord of the Rings came out and it was one of those things where it was like, as well as the Hobbit, it is, it's the book. It's the essence of the book. It's the story. It doesn't like it, it skips some areas, right? I mean, it's a movie, right? So there is not fully complete, Right. But it is without question in my eyes, good enough to where if you have watched that, you have every concept needed and every idea needed for the entirety of that series. It's, it's so well done. My understanding is, is, um, who was it that did that? Was that, it's not James Cameron. Was it, was it?
59:39 I have no idea. How many are there? There's, well, there's three to the Hobbit and three to Lord of the Rings, right? It's a total of like 26 hours of film or something like that. And that doesn't include the cartoon that you saw when you were a kid, right? No, no, no. This is just for the new ones. This is just for the new ones. And it's amazing. If you've never seen it and you have any interest whatsoever in fantasy type of stuff, this is fantastic. If you don't have interest in that, but you do enjoy reading, please do yourself a favor. And I do mean this.
1:00:19 Do yourself a favor and go pick up these works because they are amazing masterpieces. You have to realize this guy literally created languages for his books. And it's consistent throughout the whole thing. The Elven language is in there. The Dwarven language orcish is in there. You know, you've got all of these different languages going on as well as an epic, epic saga. I mean, it's just fantastic. Sorry. It's one of those things you it's epic. I mean, it really is. And if you understand the basics behind it and the history of our world and the timing of when this was all written, you should be able to pick up on the actual parallel for real world during all of this.
1:01:22 Sounds interesting. Never really thought about any of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. yeah it's it's it's a very interesting thing it's a very very interesting epic epic maybe i'll give it another shot one day maybe not i don't know we'll have to see when you come up to get the puppy no guarantees when you come up to the puppy we'll i'll i'll like shackle you and tape your eyelids open i'll uh you know uh clockwork orange style and we'll watch it and i'll explain it to you that's another one i haven't seen what yeah i've never seen it i mean i seen clips of it what yeah but no i never seen it what okay i thought my wife lived under a rock dude i just not a movie guy sir i don know you sir like i seen back to the future a couple times this explains why you're not a movie guy yeah what's that other one everybody always talks about like it's the best movie citizen cane never seen it i tried to look it up one time like i couldn't find it anywhere like to stream it so but i like every comment on the internet is like citizen kane's the best movie ever made i don't even know what it's about you want a good you want a really good movie old old movie i think charlie chaplin actually but yeah it's not charlie chaplin act acting it i want to say he was producing part but i'm not positive on that um was it i think it's called
1:02:56 a king in new york oh that's a good one that's right up my alley not without a passport never seen that one either surprise surprise i'll send you a clip i'll send you a clip later you'll be like okay i get it yeah no no like so most of the movies i watch i just i they end at night like i think they're not very good and like they end horribly and i hate it oh lord of the rings actually ends fairly well right it doesn't complete again it's a book right so you you've got you know i don't even know what is probably 15 1600 pages plus appendix plus maps and drawings and language inserts and and all sorts of other things in there but you know you're you're talking at least 1600 pages got to be at least 1600 pages i would think of book that they're trying to translate into a movie right they they're not you're never going to get, I mean, you could, but then you, you know, you'd take that series from, you know, 26 hours to probably about 60 hours and, you know, oh, but the diehards would likely lose interest.
1:04:25 Yeah. So there's only one book? No, no, no, no, no, no. There's three books for Lord of the Rings and there's three books for The Hobbit, I believe. Maybe it was two books for The Hobbit. there's there and back again. And then there's, uh, Oh, it's been so long. I was a kid. I'm sorry. I was like a single digit kid when I read them. I remember a book report, uh, fifth grade book report. And they're like, well, what do you want to do your book report on? And I changed schools.
1:05:07 And my previous book, book report was on, And no offense, but I found it to be a terrible book. It was just not, it's a work of art. It's actually literature that is timeless and it's wonderful. But I, as a young child, young boy growing up, did not find it to be that interesting or amazing. And that was Little Women, right? Well, the next book report that I decided I wanted to do was on Moby Dick. It was worse. It was a lot worse.
1:05:48 If I wanted to go to sleep, all I had to do was pick that book up. That's it. That's it. That's like a thousand freaking pages of just grindingly slow, tedious. Now, now that I'm my age, I understand the ideas and the concepts, and I think I would probably enjoy it far more. But that book was boring, dude. I did not like that book. Moby Dick. Pretty popular, though.
1:06:28 Call me Ishmael. now i don't think i'm gonna call you at all i'm gonna just put you down just gonna collect dust on a shelf somewhere because nobody wants you is there a movie about that which books that nobody wants we dick oh is there a moby dick movie uh should be right probably problem i don't i don't know probably not a good one though yeah how do you how do you take a thousand page of The thing about that is the writing is really the thing that brings that book home, right? The storytelling is there. It's just, I found it tedious, right? There's just a lot of insane description and character building and things of this nature.
1:07:17 And a lot of this is just waiting. Right. And it's this guy going through his own brain on, you know, this whole thing about this whale. Right. This illusory whale that he's trying to get the white whale, you know. And, and I mean, I think I'd probably enjoy it more now, but I did not enjoy it then. So the following year I chose, uh, Ernest Hemingway is Ernest Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises. I have probably read that book 12, 15 times. I absolutely love that book.
1:08:00 absolutely absolutely love that book and it i yeah that that one always brings me to tears at certain points it's magical magical literary artwork in my eyes so you probably wouldn't even appreciate if i got like for your birthday like a first pressing of a moby deck or something for you huh i mean come on now yeah well yeah but don't do that come on seriously yeah no yeah i would i i actually had a first edition copy uh from my father and unfortunately i was young and dumb and if you don't pay your storage bill on time, they sell everything for you.
1:08:58 But they only sell it for enough to cover your storage expenses and they don't care. And so first edition copy of Uncle Tom's Cabin. Gone. And that was something that I really did prize. As well as my Mimi's you know, crystal, crystal decanter and, and brandy snifters was, was a beautiful set. Emerald green, uh, Chris, it was just gorgeous. It was gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. That stinks. The rest of it was junk. Well, you know what?
1:09:39 At the end of the day, hopefully someone else came upon those things and, uh, probably treated them better and, and did more for those items than I would ever have at that age. You'd hope so. I would. It's kind of like my 1959 Mercedes that I gave away. I couldn't do, you know, I got it for a steal and then found out why. And gorgeous, gorgeous vehicle. The entire dashboard was a single piece of carved wood.
1:10:23 Every window was carved wood all the way around. Every window. Yeah, it was a thing of beauty. It was a 1959 220S, I believe is what it was. It was a straight six dual four barrel carb engine. Now, if you know anything about mechanics, what that tells you is that you cannot just drive this car. You drive it for a while and then you adjust it and then you drive it more and you tweak it and you drive it more and you tweak it.
1:11:09 You constantly having to adjust the freaking carburetors. Multiple carburetors are not exactly the funnest thing to deal with. Yeah. Yeah. And then my generator went out. This thing did not have an alternator. It had a generator. So I went to try and find this part. after many, many calls and ending up on a phone conversation with someone in Germany, I found that they could reprint the manual and that would allow them to go ahead and order the part to be rebuilt and sent to me. And so this alternator was going to be several thousands of dollars plus the thousand dollars that would be needed to reprint the manual and that's where i realized i can treat this car the way it needs to be treated i mean it was gorgeous absolutely beautiful it was i mean you would love this thing you really would have you would have just been like wow i mean it you know kind of bubbly and stupid looking but when you started up but man it was oh it purred and it had go for a car a big sedan of that size and and that much weight behind it because it's all steel back then right there's no like oh we put aluminum here no there's freaking steel everywhere the bumper of steel right and they used to make it pretty
1:12:45 good back then oh it was it was it was beautiful but you know i couldn't take care of it so i ended up giving it away i was like i would rather have someone take it that can make use of it and actually do something good with this vehicle like this should be a showpiece for someone it should be a collector's item in someone's garage somewhere that you know once a year gets you know it gets started on a regular basis and run but you know once a year it gets taken to a car show and that's it and it driven you know for a few miles to on a parade or something it was just gorgeous i mean literally the dash the entire thing was a single piece of carved wood like with cutouts around the you know speedometer the odometer the you know all the it was freaking gorgeous man like this thing is it was beautiful beautiful absolutely beautiful felt headliners it was just classy i guess you you know just classy now i get a little bit of trivia for you i was just watching this thing that's why i'm thinking about it you you know what a bugatti veyron is right yes i sure do yeah so yeah four miles an hour yeah right so um this guy bought one of these things he was going to bring it in for an oil change. Do you have any idea
1:14:16 what an oil change costs in one of those cars? I'm going to guess probably about $2,700. $30,000. No. 27 hours of labor to take the back end of the car apart and it has 16 separate drain plugs to drain the oil out of and you have to use very, very specific oil and the oil filter which is very expensive. So it's approximately $30,000 to service that you have to do it every 2 000 miles i mean things honestly it's it's basically an f1 car it basically is i mean literally you're talking about a vehicle that is it's ridiculous right i mean like it it is capable of going with a flying jet kicking an afterburner it's quick it's quicker on a quarter mile yeah so the tires right so they have to have special tires that go over 200 miles an hour right if you get one damaged you can't just buy one replacement you have to buy a whole set yeah and the set of four tires cost about 38 000 dollars yeah i i actually so not as bad as that but when i had my cobra the same thing right we had z i had z-rated tires that that were on that and if you damage one you you don't i mean you can but these tires aren't mushy enough to be able to take the tolerance difference between you know a tire that's
1:15:50 got 10k miles on it and a tire that's brand new and so when you have a problem with one all the tires need to go and it was like oh and i remember those days yeah z-rated tires i had a no joke yeah in the 90s i had an irock camaro and uh like that had z-rated tires on it and i thought like they were 250 a piece they were they had a special order them from tire kingdom because they did not stock them and i thought like dude it's a thousand dollars for a set of tires i thought that was outrageous at the time yeah mine were mine were 450 at the cheapest i could find them each yep each yeah it was crazy yeah i did not i did not drive around construction sites in that vehicle but i will tell you this they're small too they got low profile but i will tell you this i could go at 55 60 miles an hour down a road drop it into second gear go sideways smoking the tires at 55 to 60 miles an hour yeah so okay we had fun nice yeah i had a lot of fun in that vehicle i had so much fun and then along came my my first child and uh yeah the car seat and
1:17:22 what they considered a back seat in that vehicle didn't align so i had to get rid of it yeah what are you gonna do yeah i don't know the youtube algorithms but throwing all these car things so like i don't know why i i find it entertaining that these people are calling in it's just a bunch of car dealers fielding calls from people looking to buy most of which have horrible credit and no money to actually buy a car with oh good even better but you know they'll call in with um like the one guy he was looking at a dodge hellcat and he the guy asked him like how's your credit and he said uh it's it's good man i got a solid 450 solid solid for cars so he's looking to buy an eighty thousand dollar car with you know no money down and no credit history and i've got a solid 30 interest and a freaking 120 month loan for you at that's what 1200 a month how do you like that that's exactly what happened sign me up sign me up i don't understand why i can't afford a house no the other guy actually bought a hellcat and he was looking to get out of it but he was using it to uh do uber eats and he had 120 000 miles on it with a with a what with a hellcat yeah yeah dodge hellcat well he wanted to upgrade to a demon so he says yeah i got my hellcat yeah because it's good gas is free i guess right
1:18:53 right this one gets seven miles to the gallon and so the uh the car dealer suggested that you know maybe you just keep your your hellcat you know maybe just get something like like a honda or a toyota that you could do your delivery job in and he just wasn't wanting to hear that i cannot be seen in such a vehicle that's pretty much what it came down to yeah and most of these people are going back to a like a one-bedroom apartment that they share with someone else because they can't afford to live the the appearance of wealth and then keeping you keeping you absolutely broke keeping up with the joneses is a terrible idea for all of you out there look yeah i look i got the gray beard i'm here right i've done this i i know and i'm just gonna let you know keeping up with the joneses will keep you broke and stupid for a very long time yeah don't worry don't worry about them my my advice buy a used car lightly used in good good shape buy something like a toyota or a honda get a pre pre-purchase inspection on it by a paid good mechanic yes get an inspection and then pay it off and then hold that car until it ceases to function entirely.
1:20:20 Like my truck, I stopped making car payments on that thing seven years ago. Okay. I had a $4,500 bill from a mechanic last year. That's huge. i was paying 500 a month for it when i bought it that's six thousand dollars a year no i bought it used i don't buy new cars because new cars it's a stupid thing why in the heck would you buy a new vehicle it's literally yeah you buy a 60 000 vehicle the second you drive that off the lot it's worth 40 three months later they weren't 60 back when i was three months three months later it's worth 30 okay you are upside down you cannot sell this thing to even cover your nut okay by use lease returns are good okay low mileage lease returns get it inspected by a friend of yours that's a mechanic or find a mechanic and say hey man i'll give you a few hundred bucks if You just come and I want you to go through this vehicle and tell me why I should tell me why I shouldn't buy it.
1:21:39 That's literally what I want you to do. Convince me I shouldn't. Okay. If you do that, you're going to end up with a great vehicle. And if you stick with like a Honda or a Toyota, you're going to have cheap parts and you're going to have something you can drive for the next 10 to 20 years. Okay. Save that money. You don't need a fancy vehicle. you really don't nobody really cares what you drive at the end of the day do you want to pick up do you want to pick up a chick and in like the beautiful vehicle with the great rims and the amazing sound system and then take them back to the your studio apartment you share with your two friends Or would you rather pick them up in a Honda or a Toyota that isn that great Take them out for a freaking all-star meal and then take them back to your house that you have without your friends.
1:22:36 which one do you think you would rather do okay like use a little bit of the nugget power you got you're you're endowed with it use it okay you don't need a new vehicle new vehicles are for rich people and people that are too stupid to know that they shouldn't do this that's my opinion Now you're sounding like Dave Ramsey. You watch that guy? No, but it's a reality. This is like the worst investment of your money you could ever make. Like literally, it's like going to a strip club and making it rain.
1:23:17 You got nothing except a lot lighter on your pocketbook. That's it. Fair enough. Now, I learned my lesson. Dude, I used to get a new car like every year. It was terrible. I'm an idiot. I've never done that, but I was in the least, I was in the least like freaking revolving door for a long time there. I've never leased a vehicle. I always thought that was a ripoff. There's no worse than buying a new one every year there, guy. That's true. Because I never had to come out of pocket. I'd just roll into a new vehicle by turning my hand. I didn't either. I was, I was, I was a double idiot.
1:23:57 I'd turn my. Roll over that negative equity. I came into my lease with zero down and got my lease and then I turned it in and got a brand new car and it worked out. But honestly, again, why are you throwing money away? At the end of that lease, you own nothing. You literally paid more than you would have if you were buying it. Right? And you have zero to show. Or I'm sorry, you're paying less than a buy. Right? But at the end of it, you have zero to show if you buy, if you put in, you know, a five year buy contract at the end of that five years, it's your vehicle. So whatever that value is, how well you've taken care of it, whatever you've done to keep it in good shape all comes back to you. Right.
1:24:49 minus the fact that you lose half the value in the first 90 days, right? So 60K becomes 30K, okay? And then over the five years, that 30K whittles down to about 10K, okay? But you still own that 10K. A lease. How picky are they when you do your lease turn-ins? I've never done that. Excessively. Oh, you went three miles over the contract limit. that we're going to have to charge you for that. Oh, look, there's a tiny little scratch over here on this piece. That's going to have to be fixed. So we're going to charge you for that entire thing. Oh, look, we found a little spot on the carpet.
1:25:31 Well, we need new carpet mats, and we can't just buy one of them because they won't match the others. So now you're going to pay for the entire carpet mat repurchase. It's that. It's really bad. I figured it was something like that. But for me, I turned mine in and they're like, holy shit, this thing's in pristine condition. And I'm like, yeah, sure is. And the inside was, I mean, it was beautiful. I never once allowed anyone, no one ever drank in my car. Nobody ever ate in my car. I don't care. You're hungry.
1:26:11 Open the freaking door, stand out there and eat your food. And when you're done, you can wipe your face, wipe your hands, and then you can get back in my car. Until then, nope. And that was a hard rule for me. There will be no eating, no drinking in this vehicle. Okay? And that was it. I was 1,988 or 86 or something on the 5,000 of that year. I remember we were talking about this. But, you know, I was hardcore. You do not. Nope. I don't care. I don't care what the reason.
1:26:51 Just nope. Not going to freaking happen. So my vehicle was immaculate, right? But I had also replaced the headers. I had replaced the injectors. I had replaced the intake, air intake with a cold air intake. I had replaced the exhaust. I replaced the catalog. Full, you know, exhaust system. There were other modifications like the blower. That probably isn't so much of a problem except in places like California, though. No, actually, it was all fine, right?
1:27:33 But at the end of the day, I didn't tell the lease turn in people that I had put all these mods on. Oh, that was a lease? You put all that money into a lease? I did. But I had every intention of buying it. But at the end of the day, I had a kid, and then I was like, yeah, it doesn't make any sense to buy it, right? So I turned it back in. It was kind of funny because there was like a 19-year-old kid with his mother there. And I came rolling in, and I parked it up, and he's like, oh, man, this thing's amazing. And I'm like, oh, yeah, it's a sweet car. He goes, oh, you bringing it in for service or what? Oh, no, I'm turning it back in.
1:28:15 He goes, what? I'm like, yeah, it's a lease. Seriously? I'm like, yeah. And his mom's over and he's like, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's in great shape. I've taken great care of it. It's an amazing mechanical health. I've got all the receipts for it. Everything's great. It's pristine. Nobody's ever eaten in it or drank any beverage in it. So there are no spells, none. Like, I mean, the thing was pristine inside. I had it cleaned weekly, whether it needed it, wanted it or anything else. Right. I had all of the leather interior conditioned weekly.
1:28:55 Like this thing was pristine. I was very anal retentive about my vehicle. But it also would do 9.6 on a quarter mile. so anyway this little kid sitting here thinking this and then the sales guy's coming out and he's like inspecting he goes all right it looks great man we're gonna go ahead and sign it off and he signed off the paperwork because he didn't pop the hood right didn't see the blower didn't see the cooler and cold air intake didn't see any of it right but you know the whole time i'm telling this this kid i'm like yeah man i mean you know here he goes you know it's gonna be cheap it's It's a good deal.
1:29:39 I mean, it's a good car. It's primo. It's in good condition. And the guy looks at me, the sales guy, and he goes, are you trying to kill that kid? Yeah, right. And I'm like, what? He goes, you cannot, cannot. We won't, we won't sell this to that young man. And I'm like, what? Oh, I hadn't even thought of that. Like, yeah. Okay. 19 year old behind the wheels of this thing, probably a very, very, very dangerous and bad idea. But I hadn't even thought about it. Right. I didn't cross my mind. Yeah. He needs a Honda or Toyota. There you go.
1:30:20 Honda or Toyota. There you are. Right. Hmm. That's it. There's your apple juice gun. It is. And we're about 90 minutes in, which is about an hour and a half for those that can't count, can't count minutes. Just, just in case, you know, some of us are more ape like than others and myself included. Right. It just, you know, monkey brain. That wasn't meant to be like a bad thing. That's just this solid psychological thing. Like whatever. Anyway, hey, we appreciate you coming back. We appreciate you watching us for another goofy episode.
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